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  • 30calguy
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2017
    • 4

    Value of an early DSA SA58 in NOS condition?

    I'm looking for opinions on realistic current value of a DSA SA58, this is an early gun in the DS157xx serial range. I am told this was when DSA was using Austrian STG58 parts kits with receivers made by some outfit named LMT. The receiver, barrel and some other parts are green parkerized while the lower and the furniture are black. The gun is unfired, been a safe queen all its life.

    Neither going featureless or registering it appeal to me, so the plan is to sell it out of state, opinions?
  • #2
    Sicarius
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jan 2008
    • 2917

    Falfiles is probably the best place to ask that question. Also consider that you may be getting less money out of state since ca pays a premium for black rifles.
    Kevin

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    • #3
      onelonehorseman
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2012
      • 4888

      I suggest checking Gunbroker for similar items to see what free-state sellers are asking, and what recent auctions have sold for.

      Good luck.
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      • #4
        SantaCabinetguy
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2011
        • 15137

        LMT = Lewis Machine & Tool.

        What's the condition? Proofmarks? Do your numbers match? How many mags, etc. You can actually email DSA and ask them to confirm the build date on the rifle and in what configuration it left the factory.
        The folks over on FALfiles will be your best bet current pricing, but a gunbroker or CA sale would probably get you a little bit more money.

        The LMT receiver is worth atleast $500 by itself. If the rest of the kit that was used with your DSA build is matching/with marks, it's worth a whole lot more than the current ~$500 kits that are pieced together.
        I've seen previous DS1xxxx LMT FALs go your ~1500 or so, but I don't think the market is really high on FALs right now.


        Any pics?
        Hauoli Makahiki Hou


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        • #5
          QuarterBoreGunner
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          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2005
          • 9389

          "some outfit named LMT"

          Jesus wept.
          /Chris

          I have a perfect Burning Man attendance record: zero.

          You do know there are more guns in the country than there are in the city.
          Everyone and their mums is packin' round here!
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          Farmers.
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          Farmers' mums.

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          • #6
            -hanko
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Jul 2002
            • 14174

            I'd guess it's in the $1500 or so range. Not uncommon as DSA simply used the STG58 kits until they ran out of them. Barrel and chamber should be chrome-lined.

            As has been posted, best indicator for market values are in the Marketplace section on the FAL Files. That or the Equipment Exchange on arf are where you'll find the most action if you decide to sell. Pictures would help to fine-tune the price. I don't find FAL pricing especially different in California v. states that generally honor with the 2nd Amendment.

            That said, if you're thinking of an out of state sale, PM or email me from here if and when when you've got a price and you're ready to sell.
            Last edited by -hanko; 02-06-2017, 3:17 PM.
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            • #7
              munkeeboi
              Veteran Member
              • May 2008
              • 4925

              $1500 but it wouldn't be too hard to sell it in CA. Have the buyer purchase a $30 grip wrap and remove the Flash hider.


              AK, AR, & Custom Featureless grip wraps
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              • #8
                titan
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2006
                • 665

                $1200-1300. Need to post a photo, and if it has an StG58 barrel that's great as they are considered the best but none of them were ever chrome lined.

                The SA58 were produced beginning in late 1996 early 1997, they had the permanent attached muzzle brake with 3 holes on each side. Black painted hand guards. Original serial numbers were scrubbed. After 2004 they made a StG58 rifle with surplus StG parts, some matching serial numbers, some not, these came with the original folding bipod. The market is soft on FAL right now but in unfired condition that will bring $1200-$1300.

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                • #9
                  robledo
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 978

                  Originally posted by QuarterBoreGunner
                  "some outfit named LMT"

                  Jesus wept.

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                  • #10
                    30calguy
                    Junior Member
                    • Feb 2017
                    • 4

                    Many thanks for all the useful suggestions. I did scan Gunbroker and Falfiles but didn't see anything comparable, it was mostly current production guns and some exotic variants, with prices seeming in the $1500 - $1600 range for the standard stuff.

                    I like the idea of selling in CA as featureless- what a blinding flash of the obvious! Major brain fart on my part, is removing the pistol grip sufficient to make it legal to sell in CA? The muzzle brake is the one with 3 holes on each side, this was a Kali legal brake, not a flash hider at the time i bought it 20 years ago, is that still the case?

                    I'll take a closer look at numbers and markings on the parts, what are the odds that DSA tried to keep the numbers matching?

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                    • #11
                      titan
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 665

                      Just separating the upper from the lower will allow you to sell it in CA. Sounds like an early SA58, i bet the numbers are scrubbed.

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                      • #12
                        ar15barrels
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 56951

                        Originally posted by QuarterBoreGunner
                        "some outfit named LMT"

                        Jesus wept.
                        Indeed.
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                        • #13
                          -hanko
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 14174

                          Originally posted by 30calguy
                          ...
                          I'll take a closer look at numbers and markings on the parts, what are the odds that DSA tried to keep the numbers matching?
                          No idea if they tried or not. It may be different than my buying a demilled STG58 numbers-matching kit plus a receiver and rolling my own. Guess it depends on whether or not DSA got the parts as individual kits, or 50 boxes with parts dumped into them.


                          Originally posted by titan
                          Just separating the upper from the lower will allow you to sell it in CA. Sounds like an early SA58, i bet the numbers are scrubbed.
                          Matching numbers will only identify the lower receiver, bolt, and bolt carrier. It's not like a 98 Mauser where just about everything is numbered. Scrubbed numbers are a possibility, just as are matching numbers. Way too early to tell.

                          OP, pray that you've got matching numbers and Steyr proof marks on your pieces.
                          Last edited by -hanko; 02-06-2017, 10:28 PM.
                          True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

                          Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

                          Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

                          A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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                          • #14
                            CouchOperator
                            Veteran Member
                            • May 2016
                            • 4353

                            Lmt is a podunk shop that is basically a lower quality PSA. Your rifle is worth virtually nil. Lewis Carroll doesnt know anything about building guns

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                            • #15
                              SloChicken
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 4533

                              Originally posted by QuarterBoreGunner
                              "some outfit named LMT"

                              Jesus wept.
                              LOL
                              sigpic

                              Originally Posted by Cali-Shooter
                              To me, it was a fist-fight, except that I did not counter-attack.

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