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  • #46
    ke6guj
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    • Nov 2003
    • 23725

    Originally posted by therealnickb
    The DOJ did define it.

    "Stock,telescope~in~"means a stock which is shortened ro le n heed by allowing one section to teiesco~e into another portion. OnAR-15style firearms the buffer tube receiver extension acts as the fixed part of the stock on which the telescoping butt stock slides or telescopes.
    and you are apparently taking the position that because the PRS doesn't meet that 100% that it doesn't apply.

    I would opine that a PRS could fall under that definition. just because a portion of the PRS stock is stationary and doesn't move doesn't mean that the portion of the stock that does telesecope into the main stock body is exempt.

    the PRS stock is shortened by allowing one section of the stock to telescope into another portion of the stock.
    Jack



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    • #47
      therealnickb
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      • Oct 2011
      • 8902

      Originally posted by ke6guj
      and you are apparently taking the position that because the PRS doesn't meet that 100% that it doesn't apply.

      I would opine that a PRS could fall under that definition. just because a portion of the PRS stock is stationary and doesn't move doesn't mean that the portion of the stock that does telesecope into the main stock body is exempt.

      the PRS stock is shortened by allowing one section of the stock to telescope into another portion of the stock.
      The language is pretty specific.

      The intent is pretty specific (and obvious for that matter) as well IMO. The DOJ isn't concerned with your cheek weld or length of pull tigger pull.

      I would't have the slightest worry about using a PRS in it's unmolested form.

      Anyway. Major thread jack. OP has his plan. I'm done.

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      • #48
        Rgarbarino
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2014
        • 1112

        I HAD a PRS but sold it for the simple reason that I wasn't willing to take a chance no matter how small or remote that chance is of getting popped. As mentioned earlier, I'm not betting on any LEO to make the right decision. To me there is just too much at stake to get caught up in a legal battle when to avoid the situation all together the easy solution was to swap to an A2 stock and a monster man grip. I KNOW IM LEGAL.

        But, I do agree that the PRS doesn't fit the DOJ definition of telescoping...

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        • #49
          Mitch
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          • Mar 2008
          • 6574

          Originally posted by therealnickb
          I would't have the slightest worry about using a PRS in it's unmolested form.
          Neither would I, but apparently other people feel differently and hence the relevance of this thread, to them.
          Originally posted by cockedandglocked
          Getting called a DOJ shill has become a rite of passage around here. I've certainly been called that more than once - I've even seen Kes get called that. I haven't seen Red-O get called that yet, which is very suspicious to me, and means he's probably a DOJ shill.

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          • #50
            CandG
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            • Apr 2014
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            Originally posted by Mitch
            Neither would I, but apparently other people feel differently and hence the relevance of this thread, to them.
            The fact that the LOP of a PRS in its shortest position is still longer than the LOP of a standard AR stock in it's most-extended position, combined with the fact that the rate of adjustment is about 1mm a second and there's no way to make it freely slide, should be pretty good indications that the DOJ would have little interest in controlling these stocks. Regardless of the way the law is written, I myself would not feel like I'm taking a significant risk by using one, though I can understand why some people might more hesitant. But I *feel* that the DOJ looks at these stocks no differently than someone who swaps out buttpads on their fixed stock to change their LOP. I have nothing to back that up with, other than for me it's a negligible risk.
            Last edited by CandG; 02-02-2017, 9:31 AM.
            Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


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            • #51
              Predator
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              • Jun 2010
              • 362

              Loling....
              The whole point of my post talking about pirates is to ILLUSTRATE the idea that their telescopes went in and out.
              Good job finding holes in my argument. I wasn't talking about modern telescopes.

              Lol

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              • #52
                CandG
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                • Apr 2014
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                Originally posted by Predator
                Loling....
                The whole point of my post talking about pirates is to ILLUSTRATE the idea that their telescopes went in and out.
                Good job finding holes in my argument. I wasn't talking about modern telescopes.

                Lol
                As someone else pointed out, those weren't even called telescopes.
                Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


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                • #53
                  acourvil
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                  • Mar 2010
                  • 532

                  It's pretty easy to just put a screw in the adjustment wheel so that it cannot turn. If you wanted to, you could drill/tap multiple holes to allow for more adjustability. But I suspect most of us dial it in and just leave it there, so one hole works just fine.

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                  • #54
                    CandG
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                    • Apr 2014
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                    Originally posted by acourvil
                    It's pretty easy to just put a screw in the adjustment wheel so that it cannot turn. If you wanted to, you could drill/tap multiple holes to allow for more adjustability. But I suspect most of us dial it in and just leave it there, so one hole works just fine.

                    ^ If you're going to lock your PRS, that's a pretty good idea.


                    Not really relevant to the PRS, but I have a telescoping stock on my M4 shotgun, and I pinned the button to make it a fixed stock. I can always remove the FCG (or skip that step if I'm visiting a free state) and back out the setscrew to change the stock position. http://calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1059461.

                    Your idea seems like the PRS version of the same concept.

                    (I'm still not pinning my PRS stock though )
                    Last edited by CandG; 02-03-2017, 11:45 AM.
                    Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


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