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  • Sneaky
    Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 140

    Compensator legality question?

    As of 2017 did it become illegal to sell flash hiders and compensators in the state of California? Did I happen to miss the memo? Im asking because Opticsplanet canceled my compensator order and told me they are illegal to sell to California?
  • #2
    Blade Gunner
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 4422

    Not illegal to sell them, just be careful of what you put them on.
    If you find yourself in a fair fight, you're doing it all wrong.

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    • #3
      Sneaky
      Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 140

      I know a flash hider can make a Magical Assault Weapon that fires 30 cal. Magazine clips in 1/2 second.... But a compensator...

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      • #4
        Sneaky
        Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 140

        But anyway. Be aware Opticsplanet will not sell Flash Hiders or Compensators to California Residents.

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        • #5
          Rhyyke
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 2128

          That's weird, will they not sell us a pistol grip either?

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          • #6
            Sneaky
            Member
            • Jun 2011
            • 140

            Hahaha dang I should of asked for while i had them on the phone. I was more irratated then whitty at the time.

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            • #7
              Erion929
              Veteran Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 4706

              Just got a Griffin Armaments M4SD Linear Comp from Aim Surplus....no issues

              Join Active Junky for online rebates....$10 to both you and me!

              https://www.activejunky.com/invite/238017


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              • #8
                Rhyyke
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 2128

                Wow I actually really like that one. Have you had a chance to shoot it yet?

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                • #9
                  Erion929
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 4706

                  Originally posted by Rhyyke
                  Wow I actually really like that one. Have you had a chance to shoot it yet?

                  Not yet....I have to go all the way to Burro Canyon from So. OC

                  But, here's a good review with details and video of reduced side concussion.....** SKIP the first section which is about their Flash Comp**

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                  • #10
                    DesertDave100
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2016
                    • 547

                    Originally posted by Sneaky
                    As of 2017 did it become illegal to sell flash hiders and compensators in the state of California? Did I happen to miss the memo? Im asking because Opticsplanet canceled my compensator order and told me they are illegal to sell to California?
                    That's Optics Planet, scared of their own shadow. They cancelled my order for a DPMS .22LR Upper in July, right after the laws were signed. Even though nothing in any of the laws applied to that purchase, they cancelled it, and didn't want to discuss the details of what was actually in the law.

                    Their right to refuse business, our right to shop elsewhere if we tire of their BS.
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                    This is OT where we never let the facts get in the way of a salacious accusation. Especially when it includes the butt.

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                    • #11
                      hermosabeach
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 19736

                      So Exile Machine probably spent $100,000 to defend legally selling mag parts in CA...

                      The case should have been dismissed as no law was broken...
                      Feinstein should have been ordered to pay Exiles legal fees...

                      Instead of spending $500k and up for the win, excile stopped selling mag parts to CA....

                      And then CA has dumb laws city by city and county by county...

                      Same reason why cal guns has 100 posts a day- titled- is this legal in CA?



                      The demonstration has been made.... sell stuff to CA and get sued out of existence....
                      Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                      Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                      Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                      Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                      (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                      • #12
                        calif 15-22
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 6021

                        I just bought 2 KAW Valley Precision (KVP) Linear Comps for JoeBob's. I don't why it took me so long to discover linear comps. The noise reduction is noticeable over the A2
                        The KVP gets great reviews online as well.

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                        • #13
                          Jimi Jah
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2014
                          • 19167

                          Linear comps rule, if you want to preserve your hearing. They do little for recoil or muzzle rise but my ears sure like them. The models with removable sleeves let you choose less noise or less recoil/rise.

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                          • #14
                            Tehjosheh
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 935

                            I watched Michel & Associate's CRPA webinar yesterday (link below) and it was very helpful in understanding a lot of the new changes proposed by CA DOJ including the re-definition of flash suppressor. They said CA DOJ re-worded the definition of flash suppressor to something like the following.

                            “Flash suppressor” means any device attached to the end of the barrel, that is designed, intended, or functions to perceptibly reduce or redirect muzzle flash from the shooter’s field of vision. A hybrid device that has either advertised flash suppressing properties or functionally has flash suppressing properties would be deemed a flash suppressor. A device labeled or identified by its manufacturer as a flash hider would be deemed a flash suppressor.
                            They expressed in the webinar how vague this definition is (and i can see why) and how it is problematic for interpretation. On another note, I tried buying various AR parts (new grip, AFG, etc) from CheaperThanDirt and they too would not sell to me. Suffice to say, I found another source that would.

                            I highly recommend watching all 2+ hrs of the video (as i found it useful).

                            CRPA Webinar Post:


                            Michel & Associates sent out a letter addressing this and other CA DOJ issues (also link below).
                            Michel & Associates Letter to DOJ (flash suppressor definition on page 24):
                            Last edited by Tehjosheh; 01-12-2017, 9:47 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Oldmandan
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 2721

                              As with many companies outside of our borders. They punish us because they do not understand our laws.

                              While it is hard to blame them for not knowing the laws of the foreign communist country known as Kalifornia. Yes, it still angers us to know they are helping the antis vs hindering them.

                              You're better off buying from vendors who take the time to learn our crazy laws... and not deal with the others...

                              Exile Machine FTW! Check his prices, although he does charge $10 flat rate shipping, you'll save much more than $10 on his low prices.
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