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  • jingerale
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 1997

    none concentric comp affect accuracy?

    ok so I was too cheap to buy a 1/2-28 9mm comp. I had a 5.56 comp and bored it out to 3/8" to clear a 9mm. I used a mill and thought I had it centered pretty well.

    So here's the result, I took some rough measurements with a caliper. I'm pretty sure it'll clear the bullet. But it seems a little off center, not by much. What does the forum say? will it affect accuracy? It's going on a 16" Faxon barrel.

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    baih777
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    • Jul 2011
    • 5679

    Thats why they make reamers.
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    • #3
      jingerale
      Senior Member
      • May 2011
      • 1997

      Originally posted by baih777
      Thats why they make reamers.
      well, i don't have any reamers, trying to do this on the cheap.
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      • #4
        GartenZwerge
        Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 203

        bore it bigger... but centered

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        • #5
          CoopsDad
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 1710

          Shoot it and see. It's a 9mm AR. You're not hoping for single MOA accuracy anyway so it'll almost certainly be just fine.

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          • #6
            musketjon
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2008
            • 1746

            A reamer won't center the hole. A reamer smooths up a drilled hole and follows the hole. If it's off-center, putting a reamer through it, you will still have an off-center hole. If you used a mill, why didn't you indicate it in? .030" is enough room to drive a freight train through. Put it back in the mill, INDICATE IT IN (and check the squareness of the head to the table as well--indicate it too, if necessary--don't believe the hash marks on the head and the ram) and use a carbide (not high speed) end mill of appropriate size, OR a boring head and do the job correctly. Sounds like a text book case of not enough time to do it, but plenty of time to do it over.
            Jon
            Last edited by musketjon; 01-08-2017, 2:04 AM.

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            • #7
              Cokebottle
              Señor Member
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2009
              • 32373

              ^^^^

              If it's off center, but drilled to 9mm (3/8 is only 0.5mm over) then you probably are going to shave a little copper off.
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              • #8
                Barbarosa
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 2166

                Originally posted by GartenZwerge
                bore it bigger... but centered
                This /\/\/\/\

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                • #9
                  SilentPea
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 528

                  Find someone with a lathe and buy them a 6-pack.

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                  • #10
                    sonofeugene
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 4295

                    Originally posted by SilentPea
                    Find someone with a lathe and buy them a 6-pack.
                    Using a lathe makes the assumption that the original ID and OD were concentric.

                    OP, you really don't care about the relationship between the ID and the OD. You need to be concerned about the relationship between the ID and the threads. You could nail concentricity between ID and OD and if the threads are off, the ID will still be off relative to the gun bore. And, of course, if the threads on the barrel are off.......
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                    • #11
                      sonofeugene
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 4295

                      I just threw your numbers up on CAD and your new bore center has shifted up and to the right by 0.212mm or 0.0083". If one assumes that when the comp is attached to the barrel and that the OD of the comp is perfectly concentric to the gun bore, then with a 9.01mm projectile OD, you'll be whizzing by the lower left wall of your comp by 0.133mm or 0.0052".

                      Of course, things are never perfectly concentric, so frankly, I'd redo your bore job, making sure it's as concentric as possible and only just cleaning up things as necessary. By my calculation, a new, perfectly centered bore in your comp at 0.399" would do it.
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                      • #12
                        SigLover556
                        Junior Member
                        • Dec 2016
                        • 28

                        Science!!

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                        • #13
                          FaxonFirearms
                          Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 219

                          It can cause an issue, but unlikely with the 9mm. The pressures behind the bullet at uncorking are so low, deflection will be kept to a minimum.

                          We'd say shoot it and only if you have an issue look to machine anything further.
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                          • #14
                            Dogbite
                            Member
                            • Nov 2014
                            • 407

                            Originally posted by sonofeugene
                            Using a lathe makes the assumption that the original ID and OD were concentric.

                            OP, you really don't care about the relationship between the ID and the OD. You need to be concerned about the relationship between the ID and the threads. You could nail concentricity between ID and OD and if the threads are off, the ID will still be off relative to the gun bore. And, of course, if the threads on the barrel are off.......
                            100% correct
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                            • #15
                              baih777
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 5679

                              shoot it and see what happens. if that didn't work I would just buy one of these.

                              Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
                              I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
                              I'm Back.

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