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  • flyboy3394
    Member
    • Aug 2014
    • 310

    Precision Build-Optic Help

    Just finished building an SPRish precision AR. Need some help with optic choice. Budget is around 500, Want to use my basspro gift cards on it so it has to be something they sell there.

    Couple I have my eye on:

    Vortex Viper HS 4-16x44
    Vortex Viper HS-LR 4-16x50
    Nikon Monarch 3 4-16x42
    Nikon M-223 4-16x42

    Any opinions on these or suggestions for any others?
    Last edited by flyboy3394; 12-29-2016, 11:22 PM. Reason: addition
    Out of the night that covers me, black as the pit from pole to pole, i thank whatever god may be for my unconquerable soul- William Earnest Henley
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    kevins750
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 1376

    Does the monarch have target turrets?

    I have vortex vipers but not the one your asking about, I like the vipers.
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    • #3
      flyboy3394
      Member
      • Aug 2014
      • 310

      Originally posted by kevins750
      Does the monarch have target turrets?

      I have vortex vipers but not the one your asking about, I like the vipers.
      The Monarch doesnt the M-223 does
      Out of the night that covers me, black as the pit from pole to pole, i thank whatever god may be for my unconquerable soul- William Earnest Henley

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      • #4
        Pekpek
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2016
        • 63

        Athlon optics...for your budget I'd get the argos

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        • #5
          nedro
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2014
          • 4130

          I thought you were building a custom precision optic???

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          • #6
            Manh3
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            • Aug 2009
            • 415

            Originally posted by nedro
            I thought you were building a custom precision optic???
            The word precision is subjective here. Just be glad people are actually shooting their rifles and not just taking pictures of them and worrying about scratches.

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            • #7
              phase1
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2013
              • 1753

              Originally posted by Manh3
              The word precision is subjective here. Just be glad people are actually shooting their rifles and not just taking pictures of them and worrying about scratches.
              Lol, what is the definition of precision is a better question, one hole at 300yds?
              Last edited by phase1; 12-30-2016, 8:22 AM.
              Originally posted by Intimid8tor
              I don't need one but I might need one.

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              • #8
                nedro
                Veteran Member
                • Nov 2014
                • 4130

                Originally posted by Manh3
                The word precision is subjective here. Just be glad people are actually shooting their rifles and not just taking pictures of them and worrying about scratches.
                How do you really know that?

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                • #9
                  robledo
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 978

                  Originally posted by Manh3
                  The word precision is subjective here. Just be glad people are actually shooting their rifles and not just taking pictures of them and worrying about scratches.
                  100%

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                  • #10
                    FMJBT
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 4888

                    Aside from possibly being a bit "too much" scope for an SPR, this one seems interesting:


                    Description says it is "engineered, machined, and assembled in the USA".
                    U.S. Navy (Retired) 1994-2015

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                    • #11
                      Bete Noire
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 578

                      +1 for the Vortex. Lifetime no questions warranty. Just make sure your turrets match the reticle, i.e. MOA reticle with MOA turrets or Mil reticle with Mil click turrets. Pretty safe these days but make sure. I also prefer FFP reticles so that you can do range estimation at any power.


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                      • #12
                        Hoop
                        Ready fo HILLARY!!
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 11544

                        Originally posted by flyboy3394
                        Just finished building an SPRish precision AR. Need some help with optic choice. Budget is around 500, Want to use my basspro gift cards on it so it has to be something they sell there.

                        Couple I have my eye on:

                        Vortex Viper HS 4-16x44
                        Vortex Viper HS-LR 4-16x50
                        Nikon Monarch 3 4-16x42
                        Nikon M-223 4-16x42

                        Any opinions on these or suggestions for any others?
                        Either up your budget a bit or get a used SWFA 3-9.

                        I am not too familiar with Bass Pro but my guess is that whatever scope you get there it'll be overpriced to begin with so use your gift cards for something else...

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                        • #13
                          NorCalFocus
                          Veteran Member
                          • Aug 2013
                          • 3913

                          I think the Vipers are way better than the Nikon's. But the 4-16 powered Vipers are reported to have clarity issues at or near max power. The same scopes in 6-24 do not have that issue. I own a 6-24 HSLR and its fantastic.

                          I run this scope on my 20" SPRish AR, but in the BDC.


                          For the money and use, its great.

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                          • #14
                            flyboy3394
                            Member
                            • Aug 2014
                            • 310

                            Originally posted by NorCalFocus
                            I think the Vipers are way better than the Nikon's. But the 4-16 powered Vipers are reported to have clarity issues at or near max power. The same scopes in 6-24 do not have that issue. I own a 6-24 HSLR and its fantastic.

                            I run this scope on my 20" SPRish AR, but in the BDC.


                            For the money and use, its great.
                            Ive read a bit about this as well. I wonder if thats an issue they can fix if i send the scope back to the factory?

                            I really like the HS-T 4-16x44 as well the HS LR has a bigger objective, but I wonder how much of a difference 44-50 will make?
                            Out of the night that covers me, black as the pit from pole to pole, i thank whatever god may be for my unconquerable soul- William Earnest Henley

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                            • #15
                              NorCalFocus
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 3913

                              Originally posted by flyboy3394
                              Ive read a bit about this as well. I wonder if thats an issue they can fix if i send the scope back to the factory?



                              I really like the HS-T 4-16x44 as well the HS LR has a bigger objective, but I wonder how much of a difference 44-50 will make?


                              Maybe it is. You can always get one and try it. It may be fine.

                              44-50 won't make a huge difference on the range. In low light hunting you'd see the difference.

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