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  • Swampcrip
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 1093

    New RAW and 50 bmg.

    Any input if i can now order a 50 bmg upper for my ar lower if i go the RAW route?
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  • #2
    wade1234
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 71

    Doubt it


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    • #3
      AKSOG
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 4139

      Originally posted by Swampcrip
      Any input if i can now order a 50 bmg upper for my ar lower if i go the RAW route?
      My understanding is that .50 BMG has it's own set of specific laws which prevents this from happening.

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      • #4
        hermosabeach
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2009
        • 19110

        The flowchart makes me want to say no... but as they are opening up registration again.... it's a good question

        .50 BMG rifle. PC 30655


        The intent of the 50 ban was to not allow any new 50s.

        So if you had a legal 50 you could register it

        Now you are asking if you can take a RAW and change the caliber to 50.

        Have you read though the Penal Code for 50s and the 50 cal ban bill?
        Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

        Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

        Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

        Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
        (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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        • #5
          hermosabeach
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Feb 2009
          • 19110

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          Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

          Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

          Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

          Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
          (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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          • #6
            ke6guj
            Moderator
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Nov 2003
            • 23725

            Originally posted by hermosabeach
            CADOJ killed that website and move PC elsewhere. don't have a good link to point to yet.
            Jack



            Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

            No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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            • #7
              NYT
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Apr 2011
              • 3811

              what AR lower could accommodate a 50 bmg?

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              • #8
                951temec
                Banned
                • Aug 2011
                • 447

                At lowers can't feed 50 bmg. You can't buy anything chambered in .50bmg

                Guys honestly "they're not opening up aw registration"

                There is no "grace period"

                Your imagination is running away from you.

                You can have a bullet button equipped ar-15 in2017 if it's registered that's it.

                No you can't have a .50bmg, no you can't have NFA items, no you can't have destructive devices. No you can't have off roster hand guns. No you can't have suppressors, no you can't conceal carry, none of that is going to fly

                What you can have is a bullet button equipped ar-15

                The alternative is mandatory destruction of all ar-15's. They threw you a bone in saying that you can keep what you have.

                It's not 2017 is assault weapons extravaganza year, you get a bazooka you get panzer you get barret m107!!!!
                Last edited by 951temec; 12-13-2016, 3:37 PM.

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                • #9
                  LeadFarmer74
                  Veteran Member
                  • May 2015
                  • 3105

                  Originally posted by 951temec
                  At lowers can't feed 50 bmg. You can't buy anything chambered in .50bmg

                  Guys honestly "they're not opening up aw registration"

                  There is no "grace period"

                  Your imagination is running away from you.

                  You can have a bullet button equipped ar-15 in2017 if it's registered that's it.

                  No you can't have a .50bmg, no you can't have NFA items, no you can't have destructive devices. No you can't have off roster hand guns. No you can't have suppressors, no you can't conceal carry, none of that is going to fly

                  What you can have is a bullet button equipped ar-15

                  The alternative is mandatory destruction of all ar-15'd
                  Your imagination is running away a little with that post. Mandatory destruction haha
                  NRA Lifer
                  Originally posted by Click Boom
                  I know your ban hammer is cold hammer forged and chrome lined, im not messin with it!

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                  • #10
                    Guess12
                    Member
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 150

                    Originally posted by NYT
                    what AR lower could accommodate a 50 bmg?
                    Originally posted by 951temec
                    At lowers can't feed 50 bmg. You can't buy anything chambered in .50bmg

                    Guys honestly "they're not opening up aw registration"

                    There is no "grace period"

                    Your imagination is running away from you.

                    You can have a bullet button equipped ar-15 in2017 if it's registered that's it.

                    No you can't have a .50bmg, no you can't have NFA items, no you can't have destructive devices. No you can't have off roster hand guns. No you can't have suppressors, no you can't conceal carry, none of that is going to fly

                    What you can have is a bullet button equipped ar-15

                    The alternative is mandatory destruction of all ar-15'd
                    The lower doesn't feed the .50 BMG round, the Upper receives the mag for this conversion. Or there's single shot versions

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                    • #11
                      sigstroker
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 19180

                      Just ask yourself if you own a RAW AR from 2001, can you put a new .50 BMG upper on it right now?

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                      • #12
                        951temec
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 447

                        Originally posted by LeadFarmer74
                        Your imagination is running away a little with that post. Mandatory destruction haha
                        They threw us a bone with the registration process.

                        They very well could have stated that all bullet button equipped AR's were illegal to own. Transport, shoot or sell.

                        And could have had a buyback

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                        • #13
                          AKSOG
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 4139

                          From Bweise in the 2A section

                          JUST GOT MY 2017 AW REGISTRATION - CAN I RECONFIGURE GUN INTO A ".50BMG RIFLE"?

                          NO. Firstly, "assault weapon" status and ".50BMG rifle" status are separate legal entities, though a bit
                          intertwined and there are nearly identical prohibitions & punishments. "AW registration" and ".50BMG
                          rifle registration" are *not* equivalents.

                          On first blush, there indeed is an exemption that says (roughly) that registered AWs do not have to be
                          re-registered as ".50BMG rifles". But this appears just to be for purposes of DOJ labor-saving relating to
                          AB50 .50BMG rifle ban implementation over a decade ago.

                          But other areas of Penal Code relating to ".50BMG rifle" matters include date range restrictions; furthermore,
                          you cannot 'manufacture' a ".50BMG rifle" since AB50 became active - even though it became a reg'd AW in
                          2017.

                          Do remember that ".50 BMG rifle" status applies to RIFLES only (guns designed/intended to be fired from
                          the shoulder). But a .50BMG firearm that is clearly not designed to be fired from shoulder (i.e., tripod
                          mounted, with rear spade grips, etc.) is not categorizable as a ".50BMG rifle". Such an architecture would
                          probably not be regardable as an 'assault weapon' either and not require a fixed magazine. A letter from
                          DOJ Firearms Div. Director Randy Rossi exists - from over a decade ago - describing a tripod mounted
                          .30-caliber similar gun design as a non-assault-weapon just because of grip design (note that discussion
                          of rifle vs non-rifle issues may have been intentionally avoided).

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                          • #14
                            skyscraper
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 5198

                            Originally posted by 951temec
                            At lowers can't feed 50 bmg. You can't buy anything chambered in .50bmg

                            Guys honestly "they're not opening up aw registration"

                            There is no "grace period"

                            Your imagination is running away from you.

                            You can have a bullet button equipped ar-15 in2017 if it's registered that's it.

                            No you can't have a .50bmg, no you can't have NFA items, no you can't have destructive devices. No you can't have off roster hand guns. No you can't have suppressors, no you can't conceal carry, none of that is going to fly

                            What you can have is a bullet button equipped ar-15

                            The alternative is mandatory destruction of all ar-15's. They threw you a bone in saying that you can keep what you have.

                            It's not 2017 is assault weapons extravaganza year, you get a bazooka you get panzer you get barret m107!!!!
                            The keyboard lawyers never know when to quit. Please, be different.

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                            • #15
                              951temec
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 447

                              Originally posted by skyscraper
                              The keyboard lawyers never know when to quit. Please, be different.
                              Why are they making stuff up like grace periods and being allowed to own .50bmg now?

                              Feels like the forum is slowly turning into fuddguns.net

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