Mini-14 versus SU-16CA...battle of the non-OLL 5.56 carbines

[whlgun]

I cannot acredit this rumor but i have been told by a fellow employee that we have had as many as 4 keltecs blow up at the range. Also i see way to many people with taped up stocks for me to think that it is a acceptible battle rifle.

My vote is for the mini

[GTKrockeTT]

SU 16 is more reliable, the mini Jams so much and good mags are hard to find. The effective range of a mini is something like 50 yards. The Kel-Tec is lifetime warrantied. The mini is expensive the Kel- Tec is not, I paid 550 OTD for my SU16CA. After owning both I would have never bought my Mini If I had owned the Kel-Tec first.

please tell me your post is a joke. effective range of 50 yards?!?

btw, you can get a mini-14 for right around $550 OTD.

[50BMGBOB]

I have both, I like the mini. I have put a Clark barrel stabilizer on mine. They shoot about the same off the bench but I shoot the mini better offhand.

[damon1272]

I have owned the mini. Owned. I say the mini makes a better club than the su-16. Too much plastic.As far as shooting them, go with the su-16.

[Veritas_223]

Mini 30..Is the better of the two. Rule 762.

[TonyNorCal]

The poll is closer than I would have anticipated...

29 votes for the SU-16


27 for the Mini-14

The mini is getting some love afterall

[HUTCH 7.62]

please tell me your post is a joke. effective range of 50 yards?!?

btw, you can get a mini-14 for right around $550 OTD.

I'm not trying to start A war but this is my honest opinion and experiance with both my K-MINI14/5P and My SU-16CA, I bought my mini Five years ago new for about 500 and that is what I feel is reasonable for a mini 14. I have friends who have paid for new mini's in the last year for around 650 to 700 dollars Ruger said they were supposed to be better than the old minis, but they still had the same magazine feeding problems, I just don't see paying that king of money for a mini considering the alternatives we have today. My mini does not like 5.56 mm and is not chambered for it, Like AR's or SU-16's. I'm sure I would love my mini if it did not have magazine feeding problems. BTW I did have the chance to sell it the other day, but after alot of thinking I did decided to keep it. Figuring that I would never get one as well maintained as mine at the price I paid for it in the future. And yes I have problems taking down coyotes with my Mini at anything more than 50 yards. For the price, reliability, customer service and most of all the warranty, I choose the SU-16CA; sorry mini lovers.

[ivanimal]

I like the mini 14 just fine. even when you could go to the store and buy an assault rifle off the shelf I had a mini. I have hunted all my life. The mini feels like a hunting rifle. I can blast squirrels all day for next to nothing with my mini and a 10-22. Forget about accuracy debates and feeding problems. I reload and have 20 round mags with thousands of rounds through them. Those issues do not exist in my world. As for the lifetime gaurantee, both have one so that argument is moot. I do not own an SU-16. I have shot one and I liked it. As Elmer Kieth once said of of Jack O'Connors 270, it makes a right fine varmint rifle. I am just used to the mini and all of its quirks. Mine is golden.

[FUSE]

Well I decided to choose the su16ca for a few main reasons.
#1 which was a HUGE factor was that it accepts the AR mags...
#2 which is not as important was I personally liked the looks of Kel-tec over the Mini. I was really turned off by the look of the mini...
(I have a 22Cz bolt action that looks very similiar to the Mini and I just couldn't see myself getting a semi-auto that looked like my CZ..I wanted something that looked cool but functioned great right out of the box. After seeing what the kel-tecs looked like with the Compact Forend I was completely sold)
#3 Since I'm in Commyfornia I wanted to own this rifle before someone decides to add this to there nono list. Not that they are anytime soon that I know of, but now I own it and don't have to worry about not being able to get it.(Doesn't really apply to the mini-vs-KT but hey what the hell right?)
#4 Was the price, IMO it's great compared to how expensive everything else is these days! and from what I've read the accuracy of the KT out of the box to the mini is big. I would rather spend my money on accessories such as a sight and laser or light extra mags etc..IMO it would suck to have to spend more money to make it shoot better and then dump more money on accessories...Just get something thats awesome to begin with...

I'd like to say that I've had a lot of fun with my KT I've had 2 sights on it already. I started with the ATN digital which was really cool, but Seemed like it wasn't the right fit for the gun.. I also didn't like the special batteries those CR2032s so I returned it. I then threw on a telescopic sight 3x9 I think and I have been able to shoot 1inch groups at about 100 ft.. and even shoot through the same hole!! no bs!..Now I know thats not like 300yds or anything, but I would say that its damm accurate and fun! However, I'm getting kind of bored with this telescopic sight and am itching really bad to purchase an Eotech, I think that will be a perfect union! and I would go for the one that accepts standard AA batteries...(because you can find them easier just like you can find AR mags easier

About the KT being plastic and the mini being wood..I think the mini's got KT on that one... A wood stock is obviously going to be more durable then a cheaper synthetic stock but I think the KT's stock is good enough for me to buy it. I personally liked how light it was, and acknowledge that it feels like a toy, but it's still functional and I like it. In fact everytime I fiddle with it, I really start to like it more and more because its light, it feels good and since I'm not the terminator, I feel like I would have an easier time holding it up for long periods of time as compared to something a bit heavier...

Anyway thats just my opinion I have never shot a Mini so my perception may be skewed.. But I can say that I am really happy owning this gun and have a ton of fun shooting it! Buy one today! and get the CA model!!!!! No exceptions!!

[grammaton76]

Just a note - CR2032's are probably the most standard slimline batteries out there. I've got several red dots, each of which use 'em.

[FUSE]

Oh I'm sure they are! I don't know something just irks me about them lol... I guess I'm wierd about that.. haha Anyway..That ATN was great but it felt like it would only be usefull for CQB..I kind of got the impression that it would be a perfect fit for an MP5 but thats just me...

[kilword]

id get a su16ca nuff said

[kilword]

just make sure you get the compact forend for it

[50 Freak]

I vote for Mud's new carbine....That one is going to be a winner....

[sac7000]

[QUOTE=50 Freak]I vote for Mud's new carbine....That one is going to be a winner....

Not seen this, what's the story? Looks interesting...