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  • kenlee514
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 58

    Featureless Muzzle Help Needed

    I am in the process of making my AR-15 less "evil" by making it featureless.

    My only confusion is muzzle break. It says I'm allowed to have one.
    I currently have an extra VG6 Epsilon 556. It does have a side benefit of reducing flash.

    I know an alternative is Lantac Dragon 556 Muzzle Brake. I see it is advertised as Muzzle Break and do not see any reference about it "hiding or reducing" flash.


    Because both of these are labeled as Muzzle break, both should be allowed to make my AR-15 Featureless right?



    Please guide me.
    Last edited by kenlee514; 11-12-2016, 5:17 AM.
  • #2
    samz4mc
    Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 152

    If it says anything about reducing flash or minimize flash, it's a flash hider no matter what else it says. Best/safest bet is to simply use a thread protector.

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    • #3
      Kwikvette
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2015
      • 3704

      Not sure where, but at one point the lantac dragon stated that it suppressed flash somewhat. I've got the brake and it's great but it's not on my featureless.

      My featureless rifle has a surefire brake.
      Originally posted by longrange1
      my gun shoots better with shiny brass...plus not only does the shiny brass make me look like a pimp at the range if the sun catches it just right it blinds the guy next to me which improves my odds of winning the match.
      Originally posted by XDJYo
      Full size. Stubbies are for sissies.

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      • #4
        AreWeFree
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 4558

        Griffin Armament M4SD https://www.griffinarmament.com/M4SD...p/xhp556tc.htm

        Works well, it's lightweight, and is more polite for your range neighbors.

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        • #5
          BJJ223
          Member
          • Jun 2016
          • 143

          I use the M4SD. It really reduces recoil for 3 gun.

          With my A2 flashhider, the flash is the size of a golf ball at night. With the M4SD, it is the size of a softball.

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          • #6
            saki302
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2005
            • 7191

            If it *says* flash hider, best to avoid it.

            Even though you could probably spot it from orbit at night

            -Dave

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            • #7
              XDJYo
              Calguns Addict
              • Apr 2012
              • 7091

              Just ordered a Kaw Valley Linear Compensator to make my AR-15 safe for babies.
              Les Baer 1911: Premier II w/1.5" Guarantee, Blued, No FCS, Combat Rear, F/O Front, Checkered MSH & SA Professional Double Diamond Grips
              Springfield Armory XD-45 4" Service Model
              Springfield Armory XD9 4" Service Model (wifes).
              M&P 15 (Mine)

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              • #8
                Blade Gunner
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 4422

                If the marketing material says anything about flash reduction, you're toast. Don't risk a felony over a $50 to $150 part. Even without regulations, I'd get a brake over a flash hider any day.
                If you find yourself in a fair fight, you're doing it all wrong.

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                • #9
                  wurger
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 1433

                  Lantac has removed the flash reduction language from their website, but many online retailers still publish the original language that includes:

                  "...ultra-fast attenuation of muzzle blast gasses for a reduced flash signature."

                  I've given up on a muzzle device for my featureless AR and will be using a thread protector.

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                  • #10
                    AreWeFree
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 4558

                    Originally posted by wurger
                    Lantac has removed the flash reduction language from their website, but many online retailers still publish the original language that includes:

                    "...ultra-fast attenuation of muzzle blast gasses for a reduced flash signature."

                    I've given up on a muzzle device for my featureless AR and will be using a thread protector.
                    Don't give up, it's so easy to find good muzzle devices which are indisputably NOT flash hiders.

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                    • #11
                      BarrettM99
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2015
                      • 2199

                      I like the Lantac. It works.
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                      • #12
                        Kwikvette
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2015
                        • 3704

                        Originally posted by BarrettM99
                        I like the Lantac. It works.
                        As stated above, there's old advertising floating around listing the Lantac Dragon as a flash hider/brake unless you've got a different Lantac brake?

                        I've got one and it's great, but it sits on an "evil" rifle.
                        Originally posted by longrange1
                        my gun shoots better with shiny brass...plus not only does the shiny brass make me look like a pimp at the range if the sun catches it just right it blinds the guy next to me which improves my odds of winning the match.
                        Originally posted by XDJYo
                        Full size. Stubbies are for sissies.

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                        • #13
                          BLK RFL DIV
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 691

                          Anything with a flat front and no mfg language relating to flash suppression should be fine.

                          Anything with an open front or forward prongs should be avoided and if the mfg has any literature regarding flash suppression, t's best to err on the cautious side and steer away.

                          Look at all these http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...ke-shootout-2/

                          The top pick, Precision Armament’s M4-72 is GTG as a muzzle brake on a featureless build.

                          Click on this link to visit the BLK RFL DIV online store. BRD is a 2A dedicated clothing brand.


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                          • #14
                            Rusty_Shackleferd
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 1107

                            Originally posted by kenlee514
                            I am in the process of making my AR-15 less "evil" by making it featureless.

                            My only confusion is muzzle break. It says I'm allowed to have one.
                            I currently have an extra VG6 Epsilon 556. It does have a side benefit of reducing flash.

                            I know an alternative is Lantac Dragon 556 Muzzle Brake. I see it is advertised as Muzzle Break and do not see any reference about it "hiding or reducing" flash.


                            Because both of these are labeled as Muzzle break, both should be allowed to make my AR-15 Featureless right?

                            Please guide me.
                            I just picked up a VG6 Gamma instead of the Epsilon for the exact dilemma you are experiencing. Avoid any future trouble by removing any present doubt. If it looks like a flash hider or if the product description mentions 'flash reduction,' then steer clear, no matter how nice it may be.

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                            • #15
                              Junkie
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 4848

                              Originally posted by Rusty_Shackleferd
                              I just picked up a VG6 Gamma instead of the Epsilon for the exact dilemma you are experiencing. Avoid any future trouble by removing any present doubt. If it looks like a flash hider or if the product description mentions 'flash reduction,' then steer clear, no matter how nice it may be.
                              Read the description on the packaging before installing it.
                              Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                              A real live woman is more expensive than a fleshlight. Which would you rather have?

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