80% Lower Registration

[Guido02]

I saw the thread that said please no more, Registration questions, I feel like this might be an exception.

What is everyone thinking for AR's that were made from 80% lowers? add a serial number for registration purposes?

[helpfuljack]

The text of the bill spells it out - https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...201520160AB857

TLR Add a serial number by Jun. 30, 2018 per the USC / ATF Guidelines if you don't want to pay the fees to the state to obtain an assigned number which you will then have to engrave on your firearm. (Obviously do this by the end of the year if for whatever reason you want your 80% build to be a RAW.)

[jimbo74]

there are already like 10 threads on this

[dchan521]

What 80% lower? Lol

[Kwikvette]

What is everyone thinking?

Uhm, it sucks?

[Guido02]

To be more specific, are you going to engrave your own number? have one of the assigned numbers from the state?

It would seem if you just submitted several of your own build numbers you could then build the lowers whenever you wanted in the future?

[Drew Eckhardt]

I saw the thread that said please no more, Registration questions, I feel like this might be an exception.

What is everyone thinking for AR's that were made from 80% lowers? add a serial number for registration purposes?

Serialize 80% lowers before July 1, 2018 as required of a licensed FFL (name, city, state, model, caliber, serial, engraved to .003", 1/16" high, etc.) to continue legally owning unregistered AR15s without 4473 trails.



Replace 80% lowers in guns with DROSed receivers before December 31, 2016 and register those as assault weapons.

Any receiver bought in 2014 and beyond or PPT'd before is already listed as yours in a DOJ database; so making it a RAW isn't adding it to government records, just keeping the configuration legal with the transport and estate planning issues that causes.

Any 80% is not yet registered unless you did that voluntarily, responding to a previous ban, etc. Getting it out of a gun which must be registered keeps it off the books.

Any not serialized before July 1, 2018 must get a DOJ assigned number and go in the database; so you should take care of your home-made guns before then.

[dubs02]

^^^^^ I'm with this guy on what I'm a do!

[edgerly779]

Stay away from polymer 80% lowers no ones know how to legally engrave/serialize You must embed stainless steel plate permanently so that removing plate would destroy firearm..

[Mr.Caketown]

What state was it that tried to do gun registration but failed and only got like 30k people ? Was it MA? NY ? CT?

edit:

was Conneticut

http://www.callthecops.net/connecticut-halts-plans-round-firearms-finding-cops-state-list/

[ez2b]

Stay away from polymer 80% lowers no ones know how to legally engrave/serialize You must embed stainless steel plate permanently so that removing plate would destroy firearm..

I bet the steel plate on a Glock can be removed and the gun still function.
never done it and never will but just looking at it I have a feeling that it can be done

EZ

[drag]

so... if i put my own markings on the receiver do i still then have to register it with the state? i'm probably being an idiot in asking but is adding the markings (numbers etc) enough?

[ez2b]

The exact wordage / law has not been written down yet unless I've missed it somehow. tell then nobody can answer your question with 100% accuracy.
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EZ

[drag]

gottcha. thanks

[Guido02]

Thank you for a very comprehensive answer.

when you say registered receiver, you are talking about the lower correct? I just want to make sure I'm not missing something about registering uppers.

Also, at want point does a 100% lower, but unbuilt lower need a bullet button?

If I were get the lowers to 100%, and leave them empty is that ok? Or do I need to install a bullet button right away to be CA compliant?

Serialize 80% lowers before July 1, 2018 as required of a licensed FFL (name, city, state, model, caliber, serial, engraved to .003", 1/16" high, etc.) to continue legally owning unregistered AR15s without 4473 trails.



Replace 80% lowers in guns with DROSed receivers before December 31, 2016 and register those as assault weapons.

Any receiver bought in 2014 and beyond or PPT'd before is already listed as yours in a DOJ database; so making it a RAW isn't adding it to government records, just keeping the configuration legal with the transport and estate planning issues that causes.

Any 80% is not yet registered unless you did that voluntarily, responding to a previous ban, etc. Getting it out of a gun which must be registered keeps it off the books.

Any not serialized before July 1, 2018 must get a DOJ assigned number and go in the database; so you should take care of your home-made guns before then.