Forward Grip Legal?

[Nguyen]

Isn't California banning the bullet button starting January?

also... What server?

You have until 2018 to decide if you want to register as a AW or do something else.


Tichondrius, fam.

[Pardini]

I'm not so sure that a a Magpul AFG to GTG. I have them and I think reasonable arguments could be made that a Pistol type grip is possible.

[darkwater]

You have until 2018 to decide if you want to register as a AW or do something else.


Tichondrius, fam.

MMO years, like CA legal mags, have a limit of 10. Move on man! Rift...Guild Wars 2...something more recent!

[strongpoint]

The angled grip is NOT considered a pistol grip, so you're good to go.

Yup, AFG is GTG.

There is NOTHING definitive in statute or case law that states this is the case.

[Calico1404]

Tagged for confirmation of Angled vs Vertical on pistol equipped with BB

[m850168]

AFG on featureless is definitely a grey area, there is nothing definitive out there to rely on either way.

I did not want to be a test case, so I went with a handstop. Still grey, but safer in my opinion.

Note that some bipods can be used in ways similar to the use of a VFG; that's another option. For example, an Atlas Bipod on the ADM mount can be used like a VFG with the thumb-break method of Magpul fame if you swivel the legs towards the butt of the rifle.

[Forcelite]

Sorry guys if this is obvious, but is this considered illegal on the front of an AR?

https://www.amazon.com/Tactical-Shooting-pressure-Folding-positioning/dp/B00M2AA6EQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1475795079&sr=8-1&keywords=ar15+handle

This whole pistol grip thing is strange, im wondering the purpose and how its safer to ban this.

Force

[m850168]

Sorry guys if this is obvious, but is this considered illegal on the front of an AR?

https://www.amazon.com/Tactical-Shooting-pressure-Folding-positioning/dp/B00M2AA6EQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1475795079&sr=8-1&keywords=ar15+handle

This whole pistol grip thing is strange, im wondering the purpose and how its safer to ban this.

Force

That would be a problem on a featureless build.

OK on a bullet-buttoned rifle through the end of the year.

OK on a fixed mag rifle in 2017 and beyond.

OK on a RAW in 2018 and beyond.

I am not sure about a pistol build.

[Predator]

Sorry guys if this is obvious, but is this considered illegal on the front of an AR?

https://www.amazon.com/Tactical-Shooting-pressure-Folding-positioning/dp/B00M2AA6EQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1475795079&sr=8-1&keywords=ar15+handle

This whole pistol grip thing is strange, im wondering the purpose and how its safer to ban this.

Force

That definitely falls into the pistol grip family

[BucDan]

I thought you could only put a pistol front grip on a pistol if it were past a certain length?

[Chaos47]

I thought you could only put a pistol front grip on a pistol if it were past a certain length?

Correct a pistol has to be over 26 in OAL to add a VFG (that 26 inches does not include the muzzle device unless its permanent). When you are over 26 in and add a VFG it technically stops being a pistol and becomes just a "firearm". This is Federal law not CA.

[Forcelite]

That's super clear, thanks

That would be a problem on a featureless build.

OK on a bullet-buttoned rifle through the end of the year.

OK on a fixed mag rifle in 2017 and beyond.

OK on a RAW in 2018 and beyond.

I am not sure about a pistol build.