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  • MrBlazito
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 1005

    Buffer retainer pin wear on one side

    Besides misalignment between upper/lower is there any other reason why a bolt carrier would wear one side of the retainer pin? The lower is spike's tactical and the upper is vltor. They seem to align perfectly. The BCG has some wear in the groove where the retainer pin made contact with one side of the groove.

  • #2
    PyroFox79
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 2603

    Can't say I've ever seen that. I would figure that it has something to do with the pin hole maybe being off a bit and with the bolt going back its hitting it.
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    • #3
      Lonestargrizzly not a Cabinetguy
      Calguns Addict
      • Dec 2015
      • 6502

      Maybe the spring isn't in there correctly, or it shifted.

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      • #4
        CouchOperator
        Veteran Member
        • May 2016
        • 4353

        Probably an put of spec lower. Seems to be increasingly common on spikes

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        • #5
          armor2111
          Junior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 59

          Buffer pin hole.

          The buffer pin hole is to large or miss aligned. You can ask the manufacturer if they will take care of it or have a smith fill the hole and redrill the hole .

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          • #6
            CouchOperator
            Veteran Member
            • May 2016
            • 4353

            Give us a straight on shot like this


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            • #7
              MrBlazito
              Senior Member
              • May 2011
              • 1005

              Can it be an out of spec carrier? I don't even remember where I bought it from. It has no logo/brand. I would rather it be an out of spec bolt carrier than the lower.
              Last edited by MrBlazito; 09-29-2016, 4:01 PM.

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              • #8
                CouchOperator
                Veteran Member
                • May 2016
                • 4353

                Your threading looks wayyyyy off to the left. There is visibly more threading cut into the left side than the right. If the buffer tube is threaded in that far to the left, regardless if the buffer retainer hole is centered, the bcg is being forced to one side while cycling, which would put wear on the right side of the buffer retainer.

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                • #9
                  MrBlazito
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2011
                  • 1005

                  I'll be contacting spikes tactical with these pics and see what they say.

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                  • #10
                    Cuda440
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 3289

                    The cam action of the bolt rotating clockwise as it extends under gas pressure will alternately try to rotate the bolt carrier counter clockwise- which could cause rubbing on that particular side of the buffer pin if theres enough clearance and slop between the bolt carrier and upper.

                    Id check to see if the bolt carrier seems sloppy in the upper, and possibly try a different carrier to see if its any tighter
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                    • #11
                      MrBlazito
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2011
                      • 1005

                      The bolt carrier is in the upper pretty snug. I swapped out the bcg with another one and can tell no difference as far as how tight it sits in the upper.

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                      • #12
                        SmallShark
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2011
                        • 1395

                        it looks like the pin just turned. the mark was created by the buffer hitting it

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                        • #13
                          CouchOperator
                          Veteran Member
                          • May 2016
                          • 4353

                          Originally posted by SmallShark
                          it looks like the pin just turned. the mark was created by the buffer hitting it
                          It has visible horizontal scratches

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                          • #14
                            darkwater
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 784

                            Not sure if it's the angle, but doesn't the buffer retain pin look farther in than the example given? I count 1.5 threads on the OP's between the pin and the edge of the trigger well, vs. less than a thread on CouchOperator's. Plus, the OP's buffer tube seems more recessed vs. CouchOperator's. Does a lateral shift like that make a difference?
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                            • #15
                              MrBlazito
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2011
                              • 1005

                              Got a reply from spikes tactical.

                              "Hi,

                              It’s not uncommon for that pin to get beat up a little bit but it will stop at a certain point because the Buffer ultimately rests against the back of the BCG. Are you meaning the wear is on the side where it rides in the slot on the BCG?
                              "

                              I guess he misunderstood. I replied and told him that the pin got shaved on one side and the BCG has some wear on one side in the groove as well. Definitely not normal wear. We'll see what the next reply will say.

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