Is the SLR-95 included in the ban list where it says "Arsenal: SLR (all)"?

[Marcus von W.]

Some guy is trying to sell an Arsenal SLR-95 on the "Private Firearms - Long Guns" forum: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...ighlight=SLR95
(UPDATE: it seems that this ad, and all the ads in the "Wanted to Buy" section by members looking for AK rifles that he also tried to pimp this unregistered assault rifle in, have been deleted)

Now in my reading and understanding of the Assault Weapon flow chart (and I may be reading it wrong, since, as a law school graduate, I only have a Juris Doctor degree and am thus legally functionally illiterate), "Arsenal" means Arsenal, "SLR" means SLR, and "all" means all, including the SLR-95.

Trying to be helpful and maybe keep someone from getting tossed into the giant meat grinder of the corrupt, failed, and broken California Criminal Justice System, I sent the guy a PM suggesting that:

Regarding your Arsenal SLR-95
Just a "heads up" - ALL SLR rifles are on the assault rifle ban list, so if yours isn't a registered assault rifle it's illegal for you to even own it in California, and it can not be sold legally either.

You might want to delete you offer to sell that rifle and the photos of it.

regards,
Marcus


And as surely as no good deed goes unpunished, I got these replies from him:


chris11111981
Junior Member

Re:Regarding your Arsenal SLR-95
Always a wannabe know it all in every group isn't there! You have no idea what you're talking about, so shut your mouth and educate yourself. Maybe you should take down your idiotic comment because I just had the doj of California completely register this gun into my name 2 weeks ago

chris11111981
Junior Member

Re:Regarding your Arsenal SLR-95
It saddens me to hear people say this crap you do. You should really educate yourself before making yourself look stupid. I literally, and I mean literally just had this registered through the doj at my local police department. So what you're saying is my local Armorer, the State Department of Justice and I are all dumb and all broke the law too right. Do me a favor and look it up.


So am I mistaken, does "Arsenal" not mean Arsenal, "SLR" mean SLR, and "all" mean all including the SLR-95, or is this guy just being a stupid rude idiot jerk and is this an illegal unregistered assault rifle?

And what's with this "I just registered it through the doj at my local police department"? Since when does one DROS or "register" a firearm through a local police department?

[onelonehorseman]

I have always read it that all Arsenal SLR are banned by name. Never really looked at it that hard.

From the Attorney General's guide:


Arsenal
SLR (all)

[God Bless America]

That's what caught your eye in the ad?

I'm still mad I missed a GUARANTEED 1 MOA AK.

[beanz2]

I guess JIN308 will find out soon during DROS, wouldn't he?

Could a court of law interpret Harrot vs. Kings County as saying that the rifle rollmark has to literally say "A-R-S-E-N-A-L-:-S-L-R-(-A-L-L-)"?

[LAKings22]

Friend of mine purchased a SLR107 from GB. Seller made it CA compliant but the local FFL sent it right back to the seller and told my friend it was banned by name.

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[God Bless America]

I guess JIN308 will find out soon during DROS, wouldn't he?

Could a court of law interpret Harrot vs. Kings County as saying that the rifle rollmark has to literally say "A-R-S-E-N-A-L-:-S-L-R-(-A-L-L-)"?

No that would be an absurd result and invite statutory contruction, which would look to the intent of the law.

[ojisan]

Don't let them get to you, Marcus.
The laws are a mess so most people have no clue as to what is legal or not.
The seller's emotional reaction is to the possibility of prosecution now that he has inadvertently exposed himself.
Yes, the seller should have been more mature, hopefully he learns that his attitude will get him nowhere in life.

[ifilef]

Go to the flowchart Appendix 'C' and it is specifically listed:

Arsenal: SLR: (all)

Source is 11 CCR sec. 5499:

"(a) Rifles
American Arms AK-C 47
American Arms AK-F 39
American Arms AK-F 47
American Arms AK-Y 39
American Spirit USA Model
Armalite AR 10 (all)
Armalite Golden Eagle
Armalite M15 (all)
Arsenal SLG (all)
Arsenal SLR (all)
B-West AK-47 (all)
Bushmaster XM15 (all)
Colt Law Enforcement (6920)
Colt Match Target (all)
Colt Sporter (all)
Dalphon B.F.D.
DPMS Panther (all)
Eagle Arms EA-15 A2 H-BAR
Eagle Arms EA-15 E1
Eagle Arms M15 (all)
Frankford Arsenal AR-15 (all)
Hesse Arms HAR 15A2 (all)
Hesse Arms Model 47 (all)
Hesse Arms Wieger STG 940 Rifle
Inter Ordnance - Monroe, NC AK-47 (all)
Inter Ordnance - Monroe, NC M-97
Inter Ordnance - Monroe, NC RPK
Kalashnikov USA Hunter Rifle/Saiga
Knights RAS (all)
Knights SR-15 (all)
Knights SR-25 (all)
Les Baer Ultimate AR (all)
MAADI CO MISR (all)
MAADI CO MISTR (all)
Mitchell Arms, Inc. AK-47 (all)
Mitchell Arms, Inc. AK-47 Cal .308 (all)
Mitchell Arms, Inc. M-76
Mitchell Arms, Inc. M-90
Mitchell Arms, Inc. RPK
Norinco 81 S (all)
Norinco 86 (all)
Norinco AK-47 (all)
Norinco Hunter Rifle
Norinco MAK 90
Norinco NHM 90, 90-2, 91 Sport
Norinco RPK Rifle
Ohio Ordnance Works (o.o.w.) AK-74
Ohio Ordnance Works (o.o.w.) ROMAK 991
Olympic Arms AR-15
Olympic Arms Car-97
Olympic Arms PCR (all)
Ordnance, Inc. AR-15
Palmetto SGA (all)
Professional Ordnance, Inc. Carbon 15 Rifle
PWA All Models
Rock River Arms, Inc. Car A2
Rock River Arms, Inc. Car A4 Flattop
Rock River Arms, Inc. LE Tactical Carbine
Rock River Arms, Inc. NM A2 - DCM Legal
Rock River Arms, Inc. Standard A-2
Rock River Arms, Inc. Standard A-4 Flattop
Valmet 76 S
Valmet Hunter Rifle
Wilson Combat AR-15
WUM WUM (all)
..."

Note: Authority cited: Section 30520(h), Penal Code. Reference: Section 30510(f), Penal Code.

[onelonehorseman]

Onelonehorseman misses the point. It is specifically banned by name and the list he posted is inapplicable. Please delete your post.

Go to the flowchart Appendix 'C' and it is specifically listed:

Arsenal: SLR: (all)

It is specifically listed in the list I cut/pasted from the CA AJ's website in my previous post. Not sure what you are trying to say since it sounds like we agree it is listed banned by name?

EDIT: Okay, your citation you added above is better than my quick cut/paste.

[ifilef]

I apologize if I made an error. I though I just read 'Arsenal' in your original list provided.

We're good. The Arsenal SLR-95 is definitely illegal unless it was registered long ago as an AW. It can not be sold here, that is for sure.

[onelonehorseman]

I apologize if I made an error. I though I just read 'Arsenal' in your original list provided.

No worries.

Looks like the Mods have already pulled down the ad from the Market Place as well.

Cheers!

[ifilef]

No worries.

Looks like the Mods have already pulled down the ad from the Market Place as well.

Cheers!

Yes, I noticed that the link became 'invalid' and led to that message.