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  • stingray4540
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 555

    Short AR gas block front sight?

    So I have an upper with standard gas block front sight and a railed receiver with a handle peep sight mounted to the rail(easy to remove). I would like to remove the handle and install a normal peep sight that isn't so high. That doesn't seem to difficult to find, but I cannot find a low profile gas block sight. I'm not a fan of the look of the railed gas block with a sight attached to it.

    So the reasoning behind all this, is I would like to make a classic looking rifle out of my AR by picking up an Ares SCR lower, adding a wood stock and forearm, and making it look more like a classic iron sighted rifle.

    So is there anything like what I'm looking for? Or am I SOL?
    Or maybe is there an AR barrel out there with a dovetail mounted front sight?
    Basically, I'm trying to create a mini 14 looking rifle but with the accuracy of my AR and ability to use AR mags.

    Another thought I had would be some kind of threaded dovetail adapter. Basically a piece of metal that threads onto the end of your barrel(replacing the muzzle break) that has a dovetail cut into it so you can use regular rifle front sites.
    Does anything like that exist?
    Last edited by stingray4540; 09-18-2016, 10:12 PM.
    - An Historical Review of the Constitution and Government of Pennsylvania (1759)
  • #2
    jimbo74
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2014
    • 2923

    are you looking for just a lo profile gas block that isn't railed?

    what will you do about mounting a front sight? free float hg?
    "It is currently CA legal to modify a double-action revolver into a single-action revolver and modify a single-action revolver into a double-action revolver.

    CA DOJ BOF stance on modifying handguns only applies to dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistols and dimensionally compliant break-open single-shot pistols.
    ^It does not apply to revolvers, manually operated repeating pistols, and semi-auto pistols." ~~ Quiet

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    • #3
      stingray4540
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 555

      That's what I'm asking. I want a gas block mounted front sight, just one that isn't as tall as the standard one. Does that make sense? Basically, I'm looking for some kind of barrel mounted front sight that is shorter.
      - An Historical Review of the Constitution and Government of Pennsylvania (1759)

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      • #4
        firstkill
        Junior Member
        • Jan 2016
        • 45

        does your AR current have

        1. a2 front sight attached to the gas block
        2. a low profile gas block with a rail
        3. standard height gas block with rail
        4. low profile gas block that can be covered with a rail


        if its 1, then you need to remove the a2 front sight (change gas blocks or cut it off)
        2. you just buy a low profile gas block front sight, (most of these are flip ups)
        3. buy a front sight
        4. buy a front sight

        they make front sight flip up gas blocks, all in 1 units that don't have a rail attached. but you would have to change out your current gas block

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        • #5
          kalieracer
          Veteran Member
          • May 2008
          • 2987


          "Gawd, asks a qustion, gets two good answers, denies/ still doesn't get it.

          This is the kinda person that shouldn't be building things- go store bought.
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          • #6
            stingray4540
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 555

            Originally posted by firstkill
            does your AR current have

            1. a2 front sight attached to the gas block
            2. a low profile gas block with a rail
            3. standard height gas block with rail
            4. low profile gas block that can be covered with a rail


            if its 1, then you need to remove the a2 front sight (change gas blocks or cut it off)
            2. you just buy a low profile gas block front sight, (most of these are flip ups)
            3. buy a front sight
            4. buy a front sight

            they make front sight flip up gas blocks, all in 1 units that don't have a rail attached. but you would have to change out your current gas block
            1. A2 front sight attached to gas block.

            Yes I expect I will need to remove it to accommodate whatever I replace it with.
            I have seen the flip up sights you are talking about. Like the one Kalieracer linked to. But! They all seem to be about the same height as the A2 sight anyways. For instance, follow that link. The flip up sight seems like it's 2" taller than necessary?

            I'd like to use something like the XS Low Weaver Backup - Ghost-Ring Aperture Sight. But it doesn't seem like any of my front sight options would be low enough. All the front sights seem to be standard to work with handle mounted rear sights. I want to remove the handle and bring the sights down.
            It seems so much easier with a traditional dove tail sight. I can go on Midway and pick any hight site I want. Doesn't seem to be any real options with ARs?
            - An Historical Review of the Constitution and Government of Pennsylvania (1759)

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            • #7
              firstkill
              Junior Member
              • Jan 2016
              • 45

              I doubt there is something like that, as most AR will have fully adjustable irons
              for different zeros distances and windage.

              the problem is the that rear sight will always sitting on top of the receiver part of the rail.

              So the front sight has to be tall enough to work with the rear sight.

              understanding your preference now, I would recommend get micro sights
              and have a flat rail from receiver to gas block.

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              • #8
                milky
                Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 375



                Get a low pro gas block and an extended hand guard, or get a railed gas block that is receiver height. And these should work!

                They are out of stock, but you may be able to find another retailer.

                Troy micros or hk 416 sight may still be too tall for an scr.
                Last edited by milky; 09-18-2016, 11:51 PM.

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                • #9
                  stingray4540
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 555

                  Originally posted by milky
                  https://shop.cz-usa.com/cz-products/...-pistol/sights

                  Get a low pro gas block and an extended hand guard, or get a railed gas block that is receiver height. And these should work!

                  They are out of stock, but you may be able to find another retailer.

                  Troy micros or hk 416 sight may still be too tall for an scr.
                  Thanks! This is getting closer to what I'm looking for. I guess if I don't want a railed gas block my only real option is to cut my A2 sight in half, shorten it and reeled it together. Not sure I want to go through that much trouble though.
                  These might just be the ticket.


                  P.S. I intend to get wood foregrips so an extended ha guard likely isn't an option.
                  - An Historical Review of the Constitution and Government of Pennsylvania (1759)

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                  • #10
                    CouchOperator
                    Veteran Member
                    • May 2016
                    • 4353

                    Not my rifle, but probably the best looking SCR-based rifle out there

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                    • #11
                      kalieracer
                      Veteran Member
                      • May 2008
                      • 2987

                      Battle Arms Development is now offering a new clamp on style front sight for the AR pattern rifle.The new sights, called the Architek, is designed to be placed as far forward as possible on the barrel to provide the maximum potential sight radius.It will fit on barrels with an external diameter of 0.735″ – 0.750″.

                      "Gawd, asks a qustion, gets two good answers, denies/ still doesn't get it.

                      This is the kinda person that shouldn't be building things- go store bought.
                      Bill Wiese"

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                      • #12
                        stingray4540
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 555

                        Thanks. I like this option, if only it came in a shorter version. Perhaps an email to battle arms is in order.
                        - An Historical Review of the Constitution and Government of Pennsylvania (1759)

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                        • #13
                          strongpoint
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 3115

                          I've had the idea of a wood-furniture SCR, too. The problem you're going to run into here is that AR sight height is mostly standardized, and there's almost nothing out there that varies from the standard.

                          My SCR is wearing the lowest sight set I could find -- the ones CZ makes for the Scorpion EVO line (link). Problem is, you're still gonna need a mounting point up front that's on the same plane as your rear sight mount, which means either a handguard rail or a railed gas block.
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                          • #14
                            stingray4540
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 555

                            Originally posted by strongpoint
                            I've had the idea of a wood-furniture SCR, too. The problem you're going to run into here is that AR sight height is mostly standardized, and there's almost nothing out there that varies from the standard.

                            My SCR is wearing the lowest sight set I could find -- the ones CZ makes for the Scorpion EVO line (link). Problem is, you're still gonna need a mounting point up front that's on the same plane as your rear sight mount, which means either a handguard rail or a railed gas block.
                            Yes, this is unfortunate. I think a railed gas block with the Eco sights. Otherwise I'd have to manufacture my own.

                            Do you have any pics of your SCR with the CZ EVO sights?
                            - An Historical Review of the Constitution and Government of Pennsylvania (1759)

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                            • #15
                              strongpoint
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 3115

                              Originally posted by stingray4540
                              Yes, this is unfortunate. I think a railed gas block with the Eco sights. Otherwise I'd have to manufacture my own.

                              Do you have any pics of your SCR with the CZ EVO sights?
                              I don't, but there are photos of a similar setup on this page.
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