What is up with the SCAR dump in Calgun Marketplace?

[geoint]

I'm not selling any of my SCARs, but I find your outrage amusing. Would you pay $2500 for a clean Colt Python? Put another way, would you pay more than the original price for ANY coveted rifle or pistol? Or anything for that matter?

Just because you don't see the value (or don't have the dough) doesn't mean that others shouldn't value it higher.

There are a lot of REALLY expensive shotguns out there, to me a shotgun is a clumsy tool and after a certain amount of quality goes into it no amount of engraving and fancy wood will make me pay more for one. But there are people who will pay $100K for really special one.



Did you miss the class where the Law of Supply and Demand was discussed? If there was low demand the prices wouldn't have risen. Doh!

You can't MAKE prices rise, there has to be demand.

I own SCARs, to me the SCAR 16 is priced a little high at the normal price of $2400-2500 and the SCAR 17 is priced right at $2800.

But if someone can get $4500 for a SCAR 16 and $6000 for a SCAR 17 and don't mind parting with them, good for them.

I don't understand some who want to be whiny little *****es about it.

Not all of us are outraged, some of us are just amused that some fence sitters are getting fleeced.

And as to people not being able to make prices rise, uhh ya you can. You can raise the price of whatever you are selling whenever you want. The thing is that with a niche gun like the SCAR, half the owners are rich snobs like you and the other half are straight up flippers waiting for any reason to sell it at double their cost. Well, Gunpocalypse here in CA, the recent Massacheusetts anti semi-auto ruling and the looming threat of Hillary has created a perfect storm so every flipper in the world is doing their best to get rich. Now, how many of these are actually selling at these crazy prices? That is what I want to know.

None of us are anti-capitalist. Some of the idiot fence sitters I mentioned above are whining cuz they missed the boat for "reasonably priced" SCARs, no doubt. But not all of us fall under that category. Some of us made a calculated decision not to get a SCAR.

If anything I support any gun owner who wants to get a SCAR. I just will treat it like an idiot who goes to a dealership and pays way above sticker, which is pretty dang funny

[fawndog]

Fabricating your own parts has made owning a SCAR bearable. The scarcity of parts is a turn off.

[Tere_Hanges]

Umm yes they do. Pythons and 1911's come to mind.

I specifically said, there are not that many people, especially calgunners with $5K-$6K of cash laying around that they can blow on one gun. I never said there werent any at all. The majority of calgunners are people with bills and responsibilities looking for deals. There arent that many Pythons and USGI 1911s in the marketplace so those are not a good comparison. If you look at what moves quickly, its guns that are priced below $1000. Most people can swing that easily. But over $3000 is a whole other league of people and they are fewer in number.

[ZuluDeltaWhiskey]

I never even considered owning a Scar. For the accuracy they provide, there's much better value to be had.

Same. I got my eyes on a LaRue OBR 7.62. Best part is my mags won't cost the price of a gun.

[Tere_Hanges]

Same. I got my eyes on a LaRue OBR 7.62. Best part is my mags won't cost the price of a gun.

I always wanted one. They are a little out of my price range at $3500+. I think they are probably the most accurate 308 AR available.

However, my SCAR shoots sub MOA with the stock trigger so I cant really complain about accuracy. Its way more accurate than I am. The only thing that bugs me about it and this is a very small thing is the muzzle break is deafening. I dont know how anyone could shoot it in a combat situation without earpro and not blow out their eardrums.

As far as mags, yeah they are a lot more but how many do you need? I got a bunch from PSA for $34 ea. PMAGs run around $20ea. So yeah its 70% more which is expensive. But they are probably more durable and far from costing as much as a new gun.

[ssteve]

Same. I got my eyes on a LaRue OBR 7.62. Best part is my mags won't cost the price of a gun.

After some research I ended up ordering a PredatOBR and think I will be much happier. Also looked at the GAP-10 but GAP wont take orders from anyone in CA anymore so it made the decision much easier.

[ZuluDeltaWhiskey]

I always wanted one. They are a little out of my price range at $3500+. I think they are probably the most accurate 308 AR available.

However, my SCAR shoots sub MOA with the stock trigger so I cant really complain about accuracy. Its way more accurate than I am. The only thing that bugs me about it and this is a very small thing is the muzzle break is deafening. I dont know how anyone could shoot it in a combat situation without earpro and not blow out their eardrums.

As far as mags, yeah they are a lot more but how many do you need? I got a bunch from PSA for $34 ea. PMAGs run around $20ea. So yeah its 70% more which is expensive. But they are probably more durable and far from costing as much as a new gun.

$34? Wow I looked a while ago and I could only find some for ~$80 and up lol. Maybe I looked during a panic or something lol.

[ZuluDeltaWhiskey]

After some research I ended up ordering a PredatOBR and think I will be much happier. Also looked at the GAP-10 but GAP wont take orders from anyone in CA anymore so it made the decision much easier.

I held a PredatOBR and liked it a lot. If weight is about the same as the OBR I think I'd like the OBR. I don't need the quick detach barrel and I like the profile and look of the OBR handguard better. The PredatOBR barrel breakdown is pretty damn cool though.

[Tere_Hanges]

$34? Wow I looked a while ago and I could only find some for ~$80 and up lol. Maybe I looked during a panic or something lol.

Yeah PSA had a bunch a couple months ago for regular price of $34 ea, FN factory 10rds, FDE. I guess the prices have gone down since a few years ago. And they are easy to find.

They are premium mags but compare the price of Sig or HK pistol mags which are around $50 ea. And MR762 mags are almost $100 ea.

[ZuluDeltaWhiskey]

Yeah PSA had a bunch a couple months ago for regular price of $34 ea, FN factory 10rds, FDE. I guess the prices have gone down since a few years ago. And they are easy to find.

They are premium mags but compare the price of Sig or HK pistol mags which are around $50 ea. And MR762 mags are almost $100 ea.

I can get mec gar 18 round 226 mags (when I leave Commiefornia) for $25. But HK mags are very expensive.

[ssteve]

I held a PredatOBR and liked it a lot. If weight is about the same as the OBR I think I'd like the OBR. I don't need the quick detach barrel and I like the profile and look of the OBR handguard better. The PredatOBR barrel breakdown is pretty damn cool though.

The OBR is a significant amount heavier, particularly up front. That and I am not a huge fan of the built in 20moa rail. Also Larue will be doing a 260 rem quick change barrel for the tOBR.

I agree that the OBR is a damn good looking rifle though.

[jcberb]

I have to agree pricing is set by demand and what folks are willing to pay. Just the other day in the Marketplace someone was selling BOTH their 16 and 17 as a pair at a price similar to what many are selling one SCAR for.

Terrible thing what is happening in California; I am going to wait it out and see what happens. I for one will admit that I cannot dish out 8k for a rifle or rifles at a moments notice.

It does annoy me that folks are raising prices, but lets just say I had $10k burning a hole in my pocket and posted a WTB add for a FDE SCAR17; I am sure some folks would be willing to sell for that price. If you have that kind of money then more power to you.

If I could sell something of mine to someone that was openly willing to pay >100% more than what it is worth then I would be a fool to not consider it.

[ScottsBad]

Are they being bought at the high price?
Or is it perceived demand.
I'm not looking for one, not interested nor do I care.
But I can put my left sock on the marketplace for $1, $550, or $2800.
If there's no demand for my left sock, I may only get $1 for my left sock.
Or I might not get anything at all for my left sock, or I may get flamed for trying to sell my sock.
Just because there is a price tag on something it doesn't meant that people will actually buy it.

It doesn't matter if it is real or perceived. If people perceive a market with demand they will set the price accordingly. And it they cannot sell it at the price they set they will either lower the price, leave it at the same price, or take it off the market.

And the buyer can shop around to see it they can find a better deal.

The perception is that the SCAR 17 is in short supply, AND Commiefornians only have so much time to obtain one before the iron curtain shuts. At least that is the perception.

IF you look at GB there are very few for sale "Buy Now". The buy now price is currently $4475. But you may have to use a middleman and you have FFL fees and taxes.

I look at the GB "buy now" price as the current retail price. You may be able to get a lower price and you might pay a higher price. But if anyone can just do the "buy now" price that is probably close to current market value nationally.

If you are "not interested or care" why chime in?

[ZuluDeltaWhiskey]

The OBR is a significant amount heavier, particularly up front. That and I am not a huge fan of the built in 20moa rail. Also Larue will be doing a 260 rem quick change barrel for the tOBR.

I agree that the OBR is a damn good looking rifle though.

Really. I did some research before and found they were both roughly 9-10lbs. I thought if anything the tOBR would be heavier due to the quick detach mechanism. Guess I'll have to hold both now which is fine with me. Lol

[painkiller]

Reminds me of when the rebuild kits were getting the loophole close.I spent some money on some 33 Rd glock mags and some 15's.2 separate shipments.I never got the 15 rds.instead I got 4 scar 20 Rd mags.I didn't call up,I alresdy knew these were better than some glock mags