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  • J.D
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2016
    • 3

    Bolt Carrier Group vs Thread

    Sorry to make yet another one of these "vs threads" as we all know how they sometimes end up haha. But I truly am at a brain lock point of whats the best.

    You hear about Chrome flaking, this breaking/recalls, that not working, blah blah blah. I'm stuck. So want to hear from some experienced folks what they thought. Lets just pretend price has nothing to do with your decision. I'm curious as to what you'd chose.

    Here are some I was thinking of, but each one has pros and cons. Please suggest any I do not list if you feel its superior. And this is for AR15 build, Semi Auto, no forward assist needed.

    I'm personally torn between:

    Young Manufacturing
    Reliabolt NP3 Plus
    POF
    or
    Robar NP3

    (I live by the ocean, but don't shoot there. But still was causing me to like the Reliabolt NP3 Plus due to the ridiculous resistance claims. But is it just a gimmick ?)

    Thanks to all in advance
    Last edited by J.D; 07-22-2016, 2:13 AM.
  • #2
    CouchOperator
    Veteran Member
    • May 2016
    • 4353

    Parkerized. 1. LMT; or if you cant find one, 2. BCM bcg's.

    I will expand. Parkerized is proven. Those other coatings are where you hear the issues of flaking and whatnot. Parkerized? Very very few if any issues. It just works. NO coating will allow you to run without lube. AR's run best soaking wet. One of my guns (an LMT LM8MWS .308) did come with a coating, however that wasnt the selling point to me, nor did it raise an eye brow. It was simply how that gun is supplied, so it is what it is; if anything i dislike it as the hard chrome carrier and np3 bolt just dont retain oil. It seems to dry quicker than parkerized. I will simply have to keep an eye on it and see how it shakes out long term. However, I treat all bcg's the same. Make that ***** a waterslide. Stay with a proven manufacturer like LMT, BCM, etc and you should not have any issues. Some of the fancypants bcg's with coatings do not have MP HP tested bolts, which is a huge issue. Batch testing is not acceptable in the heart of the rifle. I would be far more concerned with individual bolt testing, how well it is staked, quality of the carrier key AND screws (because no matter how well its staked, if the screws suck, they can break or shear), and quality of the smaller parts such as the cam pin that has a large hole in it, which can sometimes be a failure point. Funny enough, with the exception of maybe kne or two bcg's (which are not on that list), i can not say that a single bcg built to the proper spec comes coated. They are always parkerized as that is what has been proven for years, long before the fad of fancy and shiny AR pics on Instagram was a thing.
    Last edited by CouchOperator; 07-22-2016, 4:01 AM.

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    • #3
      jimbo74
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2014
      • 2923

      keep it lubed up --- good to go
      "It is currently CA legal to modify a double-action revolver into a single-action revolver and modify a single-action revolver into a double-action revolver.

      CA DOJ BOF stance on modifying handguns only applies to dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistols and dimensionally compliant break-open single-shot pistols.
      ^It does not apply to revolvers, manually operated repeating pistols, and semi-auto pistols." ~~ Quiet

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      • #4
        unclerandy
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2012
        • 1092

        Not sure how you came up with your list but they are not considered top tier by hard use professionals. I would be looking at Daniel Defense, BCM, Colt and Spikes. If you clean and lube your guns, where you live or shoot will have no bearing on anything.

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        • #5
          patriot_man
          Veteran Member
          • Jun 2009
          • 2640

          I am a big fan of phosphate bolt carrier groups - however I do like chromed and NP3 (Robar).

          I have not used a Young NM chrome carrier nor a reliabolt in NP3 so I can't comment on those.

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          • #6
            looneyx
            Junior Member
            • Jul 2016
            • 98

            How about the fail zero nib bcg?

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            • #7
              meno377
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              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Jul 2013
              • 4911

              Originally posted by CouchOperator
              Parkerized. 1. LMT; or if you cant find one, 2. BCM bcg's.
              Plus one.
              Originally posted by Fjold
              I've been married so long that I don't even look both ways when I cross the street.
              Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program.
              -Milton Friedman


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              • #8
                socom2shooter
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2013
                • 615

                [QUOTE=CouchOperator;18540451]Parkerized. 1. LMT; or if you cant find one, 2. BCM bcg's.

                Plus two

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                • #9
                  BennyAdeline
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2016
                  • 1426

                  Originally posted by looneyx
                  How about the fail zero nib bcg?
                  It has a good reputation of quality.

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                  • #10
                    Calico1404
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2016
                    • 3401

                    BCM great right out of box

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                    • #11
                      Chapped Hide
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 3901

                      Cryptic Coatings
                      **** your feelings!

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                      • #12
                        Sicarius
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 2917

                        Wmd guns is what I always buy.
                        Kevin

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                        • #13
                          xXRifleManXx
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 1194

                          I run a NF bolt in my heavy use carbine. Just fed it 800 rounds of golden tiger on Saturday without any issues. I like it carbon wipes off with a dry rag. Bolt shows still looks new with no ware after 3000 rounds so far. That said I lube it just like any other bcg. I run BCM bolt carriers with NF bolts in my other guns and I am perfectly happy with them. Nothing wrong with phosphate....nothing.
                          Last edited by xXRifleManXx; 02-20-2017, 6:29 PM.
                          WTB m&p 9 5?

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                          • #14
                            TrojanX4
                            Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 341

                            NP3

                            NP3 is the top of the line coating. I've done two BCG's and also two Sig pistol frames.. They do beautiful work and the coating is just amazing. It not only makes the BCG easier to clean it acts a a natural lubricant with little or no need to oil it.

                            I would highly recommend NP3.

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                            • #15
                              BEE
                              Veteran Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 2904

                              Toolcraft for me since they hold military contracts. OEM quality, mil-spec, no frills. If it's good enough for the military it's good enough for me.

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