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Black Beauty II: My Retro 653 Carbine build is done

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  • #16
    imarangemaster
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 3198

    Originally posted by major burnout
    Those bakelites are working out nicely, thank you Ima.(yes they are blocked christopher761)
    My pleasure, sir!

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    • #17
      imarangemaster
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 3198

      Range report. Forest Service lands up here are insanely dry, so I took the 653 build to the local indoor range to at least "battle sight it at 25 yards until I can do an outdoor range some day. At least then it will be on the paper at 100. I used the old style M16/M14 25 yard target like I used in basic , a rectangle with a notch out of the bottom. POA is 6 o'clock on the notch and POI is 1" below the notch.

      Best groups were 1/2" to 3/4". I think the shorter sight radius (than the 20" retro that shot one hole) made a difference, along with bad lighting (with some burnt out overheads). Ammo was Federal 223, Federal Lake City 5.56, and my 55 grain reloads using IMR4198 and IMR4064 Carbine worked flawlessly. I really like this better than my flat top M4gery. No pics, as I had forgot my cell phone in the car.
      Last edited by imarangemaster; 07-06-2016, 7:16 AM.

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      • #18
        Nathan Krynn
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 2107

        Originally posted by imarangemaster
        Range report. Forest Service lands up here are insanely dry, so I took the 653 build to the local indoor range to at least "battle sight it at 25 yards until I can do an outdoor range some day. At least then it will be on the paper at 100. I used the old style M16/M14 25 yard target like I used in basic , a rectangle with a notch out of the bottom. POA is 6 o'clock on the notch and POI is 1" below the notch.

        Best groups were 1/2" to 3/4". I think the shorter sight radius (than the 20" retro that shot one hole) made a difference, along with bad lighting (with some burnt out overheads). Ammo was Federal 223, Federal Lake City 5.56, and my 55 grain reloads using IMR4198 and IMR4064 Carbine worked flawlessly. I really like this better than my flat top M4gery. No pics, as I had forgot my cell phone in the car.
        I love retro rifles. I may ask the weirdest follow up but do you like IMR4198 and IMR4064 VS H335? Or is that all you had?
        Nathan
        Tactical Machining
        1270 Biscayne Blvd
        Deland, FL 32724
        Phone 386-490-4464
        fax 386-490-4890

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        • #19
          imarangemaster
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 3198

          Originally posted by Nathan Krynn
          I love retro rifles. I may ask the weirdest follow up but do you like IMR4198 and IMR4064 VS H335? Or is that all you had?
          I had been unable to find any H335 at the time I geared up to load (Post-Sandy Hook panic), but got a great deal on the IMR 4064. I had seen good reviews on ARFcom about it, and it duplicates 5.56 M193 with 25 grains. The IMR4198 I have had and used in some cast bullet AK loads. loads awhile back, and tried it in my ARs. This retro Carbine is the only AR I have tried it in where it cycles. probably the longer dwell in the barrel after the gas port.

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