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  • oldschool88
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 787

    featureless questions

    So ive decided to make my new oll a featureless build. I have the A2 stock an have decided to go with the MMG. The part im unsure of is the upper, would it be better to go with a plain barrel, muzzle break, or fake can. Right now im leaning towards the spikes fake can, the CAR 1. Additionally, would these have to be permanately attached to the barrel if it is 16 inches or more, I can't see how it would, the threads wouldnt be counted as a feature. Am I correct? Any recommendations? Thank you.
  • #2
    69Mach1
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    • Jan 2006
    • 15032

    Threads on a rifle is not a prohibited CA feature. I'd go with a muzzle brake and it doesn't have to be perm. attached if the barrel is 16in or more.
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    • #3
      ironcross
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2008
      • 726

      Originally posted by 69Mach1
      Threads on a rifle is not a prohibited CA feature. I'd go with a muzzle brake and it doesn't have to be perm. attached if the barrel is 16in or more.
      +1

      I would go with the Brake myself.
      I'm not a LEO nor Lawyer, none of what I say can nor should be used as legal advice.

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      • #4
        SJgunguy24
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        • May 2008
        • 14849

        I would have a paper from the manufacturer saying that it's a muzzle brake and not a flash hider/suppresser. C.Y.A.

        My featureless has a 20" bull barrel it's heavy and Bring the noise
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        • #5
          oldschool88
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 787

          The only thing with the break is that im worried an uninformed LEO might mistake it for a flash supressor. Does this happen, or are they visually different enough to tell. (I don't own anything with a break)

          Edit: looks like your adressing my concern before I could.
          Last edited by oldschool88; 12-28-2008, 10:56 PM.

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          • #6
            SJgunguy24
            I need a LIFE!!
            • May 2008
            • 14849

            Originally posted by oldschool88
            The only thing with the break is that im worried an uninformed LEO might mistake it for a flash supressor. Does this happen, or are they visually different enough to tell. (I don't own anything with a break)
            Thats why you should have some paperwork just in case. Don't want to end up in the pokey over some B.S. AW charge. Thats exactly why I went with the bull barrel.

            Thats what we do brother. C.Y.A.
            Last edited by SJgunguy24; 12-28-2008, 10:58 PM. Reason: Jail sucks, I don't want you to go there
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            • #7
              Toolfreak66
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 1346

              If an LEO is informed enough to know that a flash suppressor counts as a feature, than most likely he/she would know the difference. CYA is always the best suggestion though.
              A citizen who shirks his duty to contribute to the security of his community is little better than the criminal who threatens it.

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              • #8
                oldschool88
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 787

                Originally posted by SJgunguy24
                Thats why you should have some paperwork just in case. Don't want to end up in the pokey over some B.S. AW charge. Thats exactly why I went with the bull barrel.
                Ya I think I'd prefer not to deal with the hassle, and jail isn't really my thing. But then again the fake can could run into the same issue.

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                • #9
                  69Mach1
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                  • Jan 2006
                  • 15032

                  If you were to put a fake can on there, I'd be more worried that the a LEO would think that it was real, than mistaking a muzzle brake for a flash suppressor. If you buy a device that the manufacture says and advertise as a MB, that should be fine.
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                  • #10
                    SJgunguy24
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                    • May 2008
                    • 14849

                    Off topic. Toolfreak66, dude I love the sig line.

                    On topic, even if the LEO knows the difference, will his/her boss? Play it safe bro. I.M.H.O.
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                    • #11
                      odysseus
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                      • Dec 2005
                      • 10407

                      Well then the same leo would be busting countless springfield m1a's in California by the thousands out there for the brakes installed on them at the factory.

                      BTW - I wouldn't go with a "fake can" simply because the idea is plain silly to me personally (and a bit "airsoft"). I would side with functional pieces - therefore a brake.

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                      Last edited by odysseus; 12-28-2008, 11:09 PM.
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                      • #12
                        oldschool88
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 787

                        Originally posted by odysseus
                        Well then the same leo would be busting countless springfield m1a's in California by the thousands out there for the brakes installed on them at the factory..
                        Good call, didn't think of that. Are there any brakes that have something to the effect of "muzzle break" printed on them?

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                        • #13
                          hybridatsun350
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 5336

                          I'd go with a brake for sure. A fake can is cool if that's the look you're going for, but the brake adds looks, functionality, and it's not an AW feature.
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                          • #14
                            Vinz
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                            • Aug 2008
                            • 2874

                            I recommend a DNTC from PWS. Its listed as a comp and thats good enough.


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                            • #15
                              aplinker
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                              • Feb 2007
                              • 16762

                              Some brakes are obviously that.

                              PWS, SureFire, OPS Inc all make nice ones.

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