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  • HKRick
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 720

    Thinking about looking for a featureless 5.56 NATO rifle...

    What are some of the options available that accept AR mags but have no banned features? I was thinking about this and only came up with the Kel Tec SU-16 which looks really cheap. Anyone have experience with them? I don't want to convert an AR style gun. I wish Ruger had the sense to make an AR mag compatible Mini 14, that would seal the deal.
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    HKRick
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 720

    This might be the solution...
    Anyone own or fired one?


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    • #3
      Christopher761
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2014
      • 855

      Ares scr.
      Or make your own with thorsden custom. It replaces pistol grip.
      Or monster man type.

      Just remember no flash hider, no pistol grip. No fwd pistol grip. No telescoping butt stock. No thumbhole. And no bullet button.

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      • #4
        Mutenri
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2013
        • 603

        Ares SCR is pretty much your only choice if you don't want to convert an existing non-featureless gun. Benelli made a featureless rifle that uses AR mags but it's not in production anymore. So far people seem to like it. Only complaints are that the bolt catch is extra and the trigger is only good.

        Now that I think about it, another option might be a Saiga in .223 with a AR magwell conversion. I am unfamiliar with those though.

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        • #5
          highpower
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2012
          • 5293

          OP, why are you struck on the idea that you have to have AR magazines????

          If it is solely because they are cheap, then you are approaching the featureless rifle from the wrong angle. If it is because you already have a bunch of AR mags, get over it and move on.

          Instead of getting an obscure rifle that probably costs a fair amount of money, but uses cheap magazines, just get a common rifle like a Mini 14, and buy a few magazines for that. Yes it is true that Mini 14 mags are a bit more expensive, but really, how many do you need? The same holds true for other magazine fed semi auto rifles like the .223 Saiga etc..

          I would bet money that four or five mags would last you for your lifetime unless you plan on running over them with a truck. I have been shooting for over 45 years and have yet to have a magazine wear out. There is this silly notion that has been propagated over the internet that you MUST have dozens of magazines for every gun you own.

          My personal experience in that you will tend to use the same two or three magazines over and over and the rest of your hoard will languish in your closet. I have been using the same few magazines in my AR's since 1989, and have yet to have a problem with any of them. And that was while practicing and shooting in service rifle matches for many years.

          Now, as a disclaimer, I am not an operator, operating operationally while doing tactical drills in BLMistan. So if your psyche is such that it absolutely needs to have a weapon with several dozen magazines that hold thirty rounds (because you already have them), you may indeed need to find some kind rifle that can use them. Me, I would rather have a rifle that I can easily get parts and accessories for.
          MLC member.

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          Dumocraps suck balls.

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          • #6
            Oceanbob
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jun 2010
            • 12719

            Originally posted by Christopher761
            Ares scr.
            Or make your own with thorsden custom. It replaces pistol grip.
            Or monster man type.

            Just remember no flash hider, no pistol grip. No fwd pistol grip. No telescoping butt stock. No thumbhole. And no bullet button.

            Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G530AZ using Tapatalk
            This works^^^^

            Make your own. Featureless. Fixed Ace Stock, any of the many options to hold on to the rifle......no bullet button is a good thing.

            I also have a Kel-Tec SU-16 and while it's mostly plastic, it runs very good. It's folded up in my trunk in a bag with several 20 Round (preban) magazines.

            It's piston powered and it even runs steel case ammo, although I have Brass ammo for it. It's a Trunk Gun.



            Although not fancy, a simple AR that is featureless and somewhat Spartan is the best option. Fixed Ace stock, a fake can up front, normal mag release, 20 round AR mags, flip up sights. A boom stick.

            May the Bridges I burn light the way.

            Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

            Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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            • #7
              Fxd650
              Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 208

              I know it's now a semi-auto self feeding rifle, but mossberg sells a bolt action, MVP series of rifles that takes standard AR mags...

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              • #8
                HKRick
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 720

                @Highpower The reason I'm set on the AR type is I have a lot of mags. I understand your point and if I had to use blocked mags I would probably stick to a bullet button gun.

                @Oceanbob Good to hear about the reliability of the SU 16. I'm still considering it. I read some where that some SU 16 models are not to be used with 5.56, only .223. Have you been able to run yours with 5.56? Is yours the SU 16B model?
                Last edited by HKRick; 11-01-2016, 10:11 PM.

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                • #9
                  HKRick
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 720

                  Originally posted by Fxd650
                  I know it's now a semi-auto self feeding rifle, but mossberg sells a bolt action, MVP series of rifles that takes standard AR mags...
                  I did see that. I know someone that has one and loves it. I am set on semi auto though.

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                  • #10
                    f308gt4
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 614

                    Saiga .223 with AR mag adapter and a grip wrap.

                    URL=http://s112.photobucket.com/user/f308gt4/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151031_122308.jpg.html][/URL]

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                    • #11
                      Chunky_lover
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 1938

                      I have the ares scr
                      works fine

                      mag release is further away then normal, so I fixed that by using extended mag release and the troy mag release on the left side

                      they sell as an extra a bolt hold open $40 approx
                      and sights $170 approx

                      You can see on mine I put a quad rail and some cz pistol sights for cheap way to get something on it
                      I bought the complete rifle so if your using your own upper they do sell just the lower, stock and bolt carrier




                      video
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJqtMIwKl98

                      I would still buy a keltec one day too just to have one
                      Last edited by Chunky_lover; 01-07-2016, 7:20 AM.
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                      • #12
                        BigBamBoo
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 5210

                        Here is my latest featurless rig:

                        Bring hay for my horse....wine for my men....and mud for my turtle!

                        What do you hear ???...... Nothing but the rain. Well grab your gun and bring in the cat.

                        "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."
                        - Sigmund Freud

                        Originally posted by ar15barrels
                        It makes it bigger and longer.

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                        • #13
                          Christopher761
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 855

                          Originally posted by f308gt4
                          Saiga .223 with AR mag adapter and a grip wrap.

                          URL=http://s112.photobucket.com/user/f308gt4/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151031_122308.jpg.html][/URL]
                          Nice. Who makes that grip wrap? Is that a monster man?


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                          • #14
                            static2126
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 5619

                            Huge fan of the ares scr too. Now that they ship with nice triggers, it is a great gun

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                            • #15
                              Bobby Ricigliano
                              Mit Gott und Mauser
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 17438

                              AR rifles are a dime a dozen. I wouldn't think twice about converting one to featureless.

                              In fact I have, to all of my AR's.

                              Except my AR pistol.

                              Because you can't.

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