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  • x-ring
    Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 320

    AR question...

    I've got a pre-ban ("registered") HBAR Colt AR .223 match rifle. I'm also left handed.

    Trying to find definitive reading (LAW) on changing the upper to a STAG 6HL (their new Varminter is very accurate). It's also chambered in 5.56 instead of .223 so I can shoot milsurp ammo, etc.

    Unlike bolt rifles (as you know) the receiver has both the serno AND the caliber listed on it.

    Anyone direct me toward a reliable source for this? Thanks in advance...
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  • #2
    frigginchi
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 1160

    You can put any upper you want on a Registered AW. No barrels under 16 inches tho.

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    • #3
      goober
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      • Sep 2008
      • 4875

      Originally posted by frigginchi
      You can put any upper you want on a Registered AW. No barrels under 16 inches tho.
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      • #4
        x-ring
        Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 320

        Thanks guys...
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        • #5
          aplinker
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          • Feb 2007
          • 16762

          Further, you can also have any and all features on that rifle now (flash hider, collapsible stock, bayonet lug, etc) since the federal AWB has sunset.

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          • #6
            Omega13device
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2006
            • 1943

            Your Colt upper is chambered in 5.56 anyway, btw. Look at the stamping towards the front of the barrel. That's what tells you the type of ammo for which your barrel is chambered, not the marking on the lower.

            The caliber markings on the lower do not create any restrictions on what caliber upper you can put on it. You must always go by what is stamped on the barrel.

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            • #7
              97F1504RAD
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2008
              • 6318

              OK i just got really confused. .223 and 5.56 are the same? So the question confuse me. At least i hope so considering i have been shooting both in the same gun for years.
              Last edited by 97F1504RAD; 12-17-2008, 6:30 PM.

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              • #8
                joemama
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2008
                • 2333

                ^no 5.56 has higher pressures and shouldnt be shot in a barrel marked .223

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                  97F1504RAD
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 6318

                  Originally posted by joemama
                  ^no 5.56 has higher pressures and shouldnt be shot in a barrel marked .223

                  In a hunting style bolt action i could understand that. But in his situation is it not the same since it is a AR15? I mean in his owners manual I am pretty certain it says it shoots 223 and 5.56.

                  One more thing if it is so different why then do most ammo places that sell ammo list it as 223/5.56?

                  Here are a few Examples

                  223 / 5.56 - 55 GRAIN FULL METAL JACKET
                  BRAND NEW - BOXER PRIMED
                  RELOADABLE - NON CORROSIVE
                  MADE BY PRIVI PARTIZAN IN SERBIA




                  .223, 5.56 Lake City SAW PACK
                  Linked 4-M855 to 1-M856 w/Tracer 4:1

                  This is US Military, Lake City manufactured, surplus ammunition for the Squad Automatic Weapon (SAW) M249 , VERY limited quantity that won't be available again.

                  Inside each sealed can are 4 drums with 200 rounds in each drum - 800 ROUNDS PER CAN



                  5.56 / 223 Federal Lake City XM193A 55 GRAIN FMJ
                  XM193A ON STRIPPER CLIPS

                  This is Federal Lake City .223 / 5.56 XM193A 55gr. FMJ ammo. MANUFACTURED by Lake City US Military M193 specs.
                  Last edited by 97F1504RAD; 12-18-2008, 8:19 AM.

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                  • #10
                    BroncoBob
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 6019

                    RRA states that with their Wylde barrels you can shoot either.

                    The .223 Wylde chamber was designed as a match chambering for semi-automatic rifles. It will accomodate both .223 Rem and 5.56mm NATO ammunition. It is relieved in the case body to aid in extraction and features a shorter throat for improved accuracy.

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                    • #11
                      cgseanp1
                      Veteran Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 4651

                      Originally posted by 97F1504RAD
                      In a hunting style bolt action i could understand that. But in his situation is it not the same since it is a AR15? I mean in his owners manual I am pretty certain it says it shoots 223 and 5.56.

                      One more thing if it is so different why then do most ammo places that sell ammo list it as 223/5.56?

                      Here are a few Examples

                      223 / 5.56 - 55 GRAIN FULL METAL JACKET
                      BRAND NEW - BOXER PRIMED
                      RELOADABLE - NON CORROSIVE
                      MADE BY PRIVI PARTIZAN IN SERBIA




                      .223, 5.56 Lake City SAW PACK
                      Linked 4-M855 to 1-M856 w/Tracer 4:1

                      This is US Military, Lake City manufactured, surplus ammunition for the Squad Automatic Weapon (SAW) M249 , VERY limited quantity that won't be available again.

                      Inside each sealed can are 4 drums with 200 rounds in each drum - 800 ROUNDS PER CAN



                      5.56 / 223 Federal Lake City XM193A 55 GRAIN FMJ
                      XM193A ON STRIPPER CLIPS

                      This is Federal Lake City .223 / 5.56 XM193A 55gr. FMJ ammo. MANUFACTURED by Lake City US Military M193 specs.
                      From what I understand, a barrel for 5.56 can safely shoot 223, but a barrel for 223 shouldn't shoot 5.56.

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                      • #12
                        ohsmily
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 8994

                        Originally posted by 97F1504RAD
                        OK i just got really confused. .223 and 5.56 are the same? So the question confuse me. At least i hope so considering i have been shooting both in the same gun for years.
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                        • #13
                          cgseanp1
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                          • Dec 2008
                          • 4651

                          Originally posted by ohsmily
                          Google is your friend. It is amazing what you can find on the internet.
                          The thing is, this IS also the internet. People use these sites for information, just like someone like you might use Google.. I would rather have someone tell me something on a site like this, than google it and read some article that had been written by some other random person. Either way, it doesn't hurt to try google too

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                          • #14
                            aplinker
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 16762

                            Originally posted by cgseanp1
                            From what I understand, a barrel for 5.56 can safely shoot 223, but a barrel for 223 shouldn't shoot 5.56.
                            Almost all modern barrels can shoot both.

                            It's always best to check your manual and/or call the manufacturer.

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                            • #15
                              Gio
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                              • Nov 2008
                              • 10251

                              Man I was geting ready to panic for a second, lol! I am still a n00b to the whole AR game, even though I ma piecing together my first AR right now. I bought a case of .223 55 grain for my AR. The barrel is a Mil Spec 5.56 with a 1/7 RHT, I was looking for 5.56 ammo and .223 always pops up. So I went ahead and ordered the .223 since it is the same that the Mil uses lol! Okay enough of my n00biness!

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