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  • Rorge Retson
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 2712

    Building a 7.62x39 upper...

    From some reading I have been doing I gather that I can build a 7.62x39 upper for my AR, and it should function fine (while being more accurate than you average AK), is that correct?

    Are there any specific guidelines for doing this correctly, or is it like with any other upper? Some questions I have:

    1) Barrel - is an HBAR best? I'm looking at this one.
    2) BCG - so far this one seems pretty good - anyone else have them?
    3) What about mags?
    4) Anything else I need? Different buffer spring?

    Thanks!
  • #2
    nick
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    CGN Contributor
    • Aug 2008
    • 19143

    You'll need a stronger hammer spring for the Russian ammo. As for the mags, get the 10/30 ones, not 10 rnd.
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    • #3
      bruss01
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2006
      • 5336

      I built one, great gun. Look up my threads on it if you want some tips.
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      • #4
        slomofo
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 1037

        Barrel and bolt is all you need. Mags can sometimes be finicky, but I've never had a problem with 10 rounders. I use 30 round mags loaded with 25 and that's all that works for me (more than that will get follower tilt), but in CA that shouldn't be an issue for you obviously.

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        • #5
          ratled
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2013
          • 923

          I use ASC x39 10 rd mags and they work well. Kind of hard to get that 10th one in at first but they'll loosen up over use. I use standard buffers. A Wolffe HD hammer spring is must for import ammo

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          • #6
            kcheung2
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 4387

            Unless you want the experience of a build (nothing wrong with that) it's cheaper to just buy a complete upper. I got mine from here:



            The barrel is a heavy, and I used the same bcg you linked to, attached to a standard AR lower with no changes at all. I had no problems with Tulammo, and only a few light primer strikes with Golden Tiger.

            Here was my post on it, post #16


            I'm very happy with it's precision, it's almost as good as 5.56 and it definitely grouped much better than the AK I shot that afternoon.
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            • #7
              Metal Fiend
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2011
              • 1048

              I'm doing the same build.
              I used this barrel / bolt combo:


              And picked up the hammer spring from Wolff

              (XP Hammer Spring $4.99)

              Picked up some ASC mags from the gun show last weekend

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              • #8
                mcisniper
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2011
                • 532

                ASC 10rd mags, and make sure to get it head spaced. If every thing is within "mil-spec" extra power/enhanced is not needed but can ease the mind. The barrel and bolt should work, but head space it to make sure.

                In my experience, you can almost expect one bad round per box of ammo. Wolf put out some really bad stuff a while ago and i was getting 5 to 6 bad rounds per box.
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                • #9
                  jmpeal
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 1196

                  C product 2nd gen magazines worked for me, straight 10 rounders and 30s. Tried the ASC 10/20s and they had different feeding issues. The c product ones worked flawlessly.

                  Mine was from Radical also with the Seekins HG. I only shot MFS (Silver Bear) ammo and no issues with good accuracy. A fun rifle to shoot.
                  Last edited by jmpeal; 11-21-2015, 7:13 PM.

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                  • #10
                    EXTREMEOPS1
                    Member
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 306

                    Used aero precision upper half and an ARES Armor NIB BCG its flawless and accurate
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                    • #11
                      Cadre
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 3310

                      Not to high jack anyone know the right gas port size for a x39 pistol upper. Sent mine back to radical to fix.
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                      • #12
                        kenl
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 1707

                        Enhanced firing pin...check. +1 on the wolf extra power spring if you want to shoot steel case ammo, but you may want to upgrade your trigger group to offset the heavier pull. I've had good luck with the asc 10 round mags, but like other say, the 10th round is hard to get in. My rifle runs perfectly with a standard buffer spring and a carbine buffer.

                        I've had no misfires with the cheaper steel ammo after upgrading to the enhanced firing pin and the wolf spring over 1100 rounds ago.

                        Have fun with your new build. It's a great round in an AR
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                        • #13
                          MustangSteveGT
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 820

                          Increased power hammer spring is a must with cheap steel cased 7.62x39. X39 has lower case pressure so anything you do to keep friction down on the contact surfaces helps. I.e. polishing contact points on cam pin bolt carrier rails, bolt. Areas that you would normally lube. Not a must, but 1 I built it helped. The feed ramps have to be wider and contoured to the fatter X39 cartridge projectile tip. Furthermore you may need to match the magazine to it. Regardless of who builds the upper, you might still need to tweak the feed ramps because there is no 1 uniform spec foe the X39 feed ramps across the board.
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                          • #14
                            Elwood_Blues
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 2394

                            Originally posted by kcheung2
                            Unless you want the experience of a build (nothing wrong with that) it's cheaper to just buy a complete upper. I got mine from here:



                            The barrel is a heavy, and I used the same bcg you linked to, attached to a standard AR lower with no changes at all. I had no problems with Tulammo, and only a few light primer strikes with Golden Tiger.
                            Yeah, throw a BCG and a CH and you'll have pretty sweet set up for just over 300 bucks. This looks like the same BCG as OP linked, but for 10 bucks less. http://www.joeboboutfitters.com/Radi....62x39-bcg.htm
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                            • #15
                              Click Boom
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 6955

                              PSA has a x39 complete upper on sale for BF that has really good reviews. I Was just looking at it..

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