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Is it possible to get a typical M4 styled upper pinned with a LAM "Hollywood" BFA? Does the overall length matter if it can't shoot live rounds? Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get the upper and then get it pinned, I live in the Bay Area. I do not currently own a lower if that matters.
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Random guess says that if the barrel is welded plugged with a inside-inside-bore bfa for Hollywood use the upper isn't capable of making a firearm. Shouldn't be hard to find a gunsmith to do such things.
Less-random guess suggests your legal issues will be with the lower. Typical Hollywood has AR's going burst/full auto, and that lower (upper doesn't make a difference), will be a machinegun subject to all the ATF paperwork. Maybe Hollywood uses upper/lowers that are pinned/welded together so they can't be a firearm. Hollywood likely has the paperwork and budget to just have real machinegun lowers and fires real blanks.
Maybe they use a lower/bcg that is specific to blanks which makes the weapon incapable of firing live rounds? -
I plan on ordering a normal CA compliant lower (and the rest of the parts) from http://palmettostatearmory.com/
It will be semi auto and have a bullet button. I think what I may have to do is order their 16" upper, and have it cut down to 14.7" and pinned welded with the BFA inside of it. Thats probably cheaper being as the upper is only $190. Though I really don't know what getting a barrel cut would cost me.Comment
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On an AR style firearm, the lower receiver is the firearm.
Doesn't matter what type of upper receiver is attached to it, it's still a firearm and all Federal & CA gun laws apply.
A blank fire only upper with a less than 16" barrel length attached to a functional lower will equate to a SBR, under Federal & CA laws.
It does not matter if it's blank fire only. There is no blank firing exemption to gun laws.sigpic
"If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).Comment
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SBR size blank barrels exist. Just gotta follow a atf approved design.http://tommygunner.com/blankbarrels/
Just need to check CA laws, you don't wanna create an AW, might be OK as it wouldn't be designed to fire a projectile or be used as a weapon (can cannon) but don't take my word for it, I'm not a lawyer. Do a lot of research first.Last edited by superhondaz50; 09-14-2015, 2:14 PM.Originally Posted By CTbuilder1 @ arfcom:
A lot of time and energy goes into thinking up ways to make perfectly good rifles into something dumb. Single shot ARs are gay. AR pistols are also gay. Just my opinion, of course, but a single shot AR pistol would be an AIDS cannon.Comment
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"If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).Comment
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Figured that unless the lower was permanently attached to the upper (saw a bolt action AR that did this for legal reasons), it would be a sbr/mg. If it was permanent, then it shouldn't be a firearm, no?Comment
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The receiver will always be a firearm unless its destroyed. What you attach to it will change its classification and can get you into trouble. As quiet said you may very well run into AW or SBR issues here in CA. Read the can cannon thread to get a better idea on some if the PC, also the "do you want a aow" thread. Etc.Originally Posted By CTbuilder1 @ arfcom:
A lot of time and energy goes into thinking up ways to make perfectly good rifles into something dumb. Single shot ARs are gay. AR pistols are also gay. Just my opinion, of course, but a single shot AR pistol would be an AIDS cannon.Comment
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I think i'll bypass the potentially illegal part by cutting a 16" barrel to 14.7 and pinning on the flash hider and BFA to be over 16" total. Thanks for the heads up.Comment
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That would be wise.Originally Posted By CTbuilder1 @ arfcom:
A lot of time and energy goes into thinking up ways to make perfectly good rifles into something dumb. Single shot ARs are gay. AR pistols are also gay. Just my opinion, of course, but a single shot AR pistol would be an AIDS cannon.Comment
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Would it still be a firearm if the upper was permanent to the lower and it's incapable of firing live rounds?Comment
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That's probably something you'd have to send to the ATF for a determination.sigpicOriginally posted by Dr. ElkyOriginally posted by CSACANNONEERComment
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Back in the 50's, Steve McQueen sported a '' Mare's Leg'' cut down lever rifle (Win '92?) in the tv series' 'Wanted, Dead or Alive''. Now remember, this was only a tv prop, and the studio still had to get ATF approval on the firearm. Better safe than sorry.
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