What "IF " ammo question

[Eat Dirt]

I have a what"" if ""ammo question ::

Let's say you have a Few different size rifle rounds
And some 8 MM ( 8 X 57 )
gets thrown into the 30.06 pile and you load a Garand with it

Would it load / work ??
I was just checking case sizes the other day and had a thought

[sb_pete]

No idea, but at the thought

[Eat Dirt]

No idea, but at the thought

I Know ... I was at my shooting spot ( secert) and was picking up my brass ( 8 MM ) and came across all this 30.06 that was not mine and started to think ......
I wonder what would happen

[Arkalius]

I heard a story about a guy who was taking some tactical training classes for handgun. He had a 1911 .45 and he looked down and saw an unfired round at the range, picked it up, and loaded it into his gun. What he didn't know is that the round was 10mm and not .45 acp. He pulled the trigger and nothing happened. He cycled the action, which loaded a .45 in behind the 10mm, shoving it down the barrel. When he fired the next round he destroyed his gun, avoiding injury to hismelf probably because of the rugged steel construction of the 1911.

So, a good lesson... don't use an unfired round you just find lying on the ground. Even if it is the right caliber, you can't trust that it's properly loaded (it could be someone's screwed up hot load or something).

[devildog999]

Why would you want to try, any failure could be catastrophic (i realize you said hypothetically, I was just bringing up that point)

[Eat Dirt]

Why would you want to try, any failure could be catastrophic (i realize you said hypothetically, I was just bringing up that point)

I understand that anything like that Could be Deadly
BUT .. Strange things can happen

A lot of us have different kinds of Mil-Sup rifles . And IF you brought the old 8MM Mauser and a old favorite 30.06
Things 'Could ' get mixed up
I know it's just a " What If "

[nobs11]

I'm not sure if it will chamber, but bullet diameter for 30-06 is .308 and for 8mm mauser it is .323. What happens when you push a 323 bullet down a Garand barrel? I don't want to know.

I'm not sure if the Garand will chamber 8mm and whether it will handle the pressure. Not sure what will happen to the op rod either. Again, I don't want to know.

No offense, but this question should never be asked. If you can't check which ammo you are loading in your gun, you shouldn't be shooting guns. Read the warning on the ammo box? Should only be loaded with the caliber it is meant for. If you love damaging your Garand in the best case, or a bolt passing through your brain in the worst or don't like your hands too much, by all means be careless about your ammo.

[Eat Dirt]

No offense, but this question should never be asked. If you can't check which ammo you are loading in your gun, you shouldn't be shooting guns. Read the warning on the ammo box? Should only be loaded with the caliber it is meant for.

None taken .........
I agree with your statment 100 %

[nobs11]

Max CUP for 30-06 is 50000. For 8mm mauser it is 35000. Not sure how much extra pressure the larger bullet would produce.

In any case, don't ever try it.

[fusionstar]

carry each caliber ammo in different containers. Marked ziplock bags or ammo cans. No loose rounds. My cousin kept trying to chamber a 7.62x39 into my friends ar because it "Fit the magazine." He calls himself a gun expert. He then proceeded to swing a 12 ga pass my scalp after a sparrow. His barrel skimmed my head... Avoid idiots at all cost. Cause it can and will cost your life.

[Eat Dirt]

Max CUP for 30-06 is 50000. For 8mm mauser it is 35000. Not sure how much extra pressure the larger bullet would produce.

In any case, don't ever try it.

Agreed !!

But as you and I know we have seen these weekend 'Rambo's " at the range or shooting area
and sometime they are just plain scarry !!!
they get out there B.S. ing and NOT paying attition..

Picking up the brass the other day just made me think /IF IT COULD HAPPEN
Best Regards RON

[fairfaxjim]

Agreed !!

But as you and I know we have seen these weekend 'Rambo's " at the range or shooting area
and sometime they are just plain scarry !!!
they get out there B.S. ing and NOT paying attition..

Picking up the brass the other day just made me think /IF IT COULD HAPPEN
Best Regards RON

ANYTHING CAN happen. You may survive, you may not. Now, the question is "do you feel lucky today punk? Well, do you?"

Remember, life isn't a movie or a drill, it is for all the marbles.

[Fjold]

I've heard of this happening many times especially with Milsurp guns. The 8x57 round is shorter than the 30.06 and the bullet seats into the neck of the 30.06 chamber headspacing there. Upon firing the 8mm bullet swages down and exits the bore.

Tthe pressure spikes pretty high because the bullet has no jump to the lands and immediately has to start being swaged down. Some people have had to pound the bolt open with a piece of wood.

One guy on Savage Shooters reported chambering a 308 round in a 270 rifle the same way and the bullet actually hit the target about 6" low and a little left. He took the rifle to a gunsmith who couldn't find anything wrong with the gun, no bolt setback, lug damage, action distortion etc.

[Eat Dirt]

I've heard of this happening many times especially with Milsurp guns. The 8x57 round is shorter than the 30.06 and the bullet seats into the neck of the 30.06 chamber headspacing there. Upon firing the 8mm bullet swages down and exits the bore.

Tthe pressure spikes pretty high because the bullet has no jump to the lands and immediately has to start being swaged down. Some people have had to pound the bolt open with a piece of wood.

O K ,That's kind of what I was think about when I asked the question
Bring out a few Milsurp guns and in moving from gun to gun a round might get dropped and then put in the wrong gun or something to that effect
Thanks

[nobs11]

Bring out a few Milsurp guns and in moving from gun to gun a round might get dropped and then put in the wrong gun or something to that effect
Thanks

I'm sorry but I don't possibly see how this can happen. A 30-06 round looks very different from a 8mm mauser. Yeah they are both yellow and shiny and have a pointy end but I don't see how this could happen unless you are not paying any attention.