Sheperd Scopes

[Mr.RoDiN]

I wasn't sure where to post this. Does anybody own, or know anybody who owns a Sheperd's Scope? I always see their add in shotgun news and think their system is pretty interesting. I own a .308 winchester model 70 varmint rifle. It is a heavy rifle with a free floating bull barrel. I don't use it for hunting, just for range shooting. I was wondering how well this scope would work for my purposes.

[xenophobe]

Expensive.... overpriced... and not all that great. Spend your money on a nice VX3 Leupold or on some high end glass...

[ivanimal]

Expensive.... overpriced... and not all that great. Spend your money on a nice VX3 Leupold or on some high end glass...

I have a PE=1 on my Model 700 in 300 Winmag, as long as I have the proper velocity ammo it works. I reload so that has NEVER been an issue. Factory ammo works just as well, you just have to find out the ballistics before you buy. It will give you a circle representing the chest size of an elk, or deer ( you can order either) at yardage up to 1000 yards. I have used it to kill two deer at 300 yards and one at 150 yards. It works as advertised and I love it. I sighted it in in two shots. It has a dual reticle system that is top notch, I have never seen a more simple scope to use. The optics are clear and as good as an european glass, they were the first US company to coat lenses. I used mine in below freezing weather and 114 degree weather with no difference. I also own 4 leupold scopes and love them as well. They are nice but dont have a chance against hunting with these. If you just want to punch holes in paper get a leupold, if you hunt and want to hit what you are aiming at, with no guesswork as to where to hold at different ranges, get a Shepherd. I will order one for my 35 Whelen when I pick it up on the 1st.

[Mute]

Sheperd scopes aren't bad but nothing to write home about. For the price I'd rather get a Leupold. If I wanted an alternative ranging system, I'd go with a Horus scope.

[461]

Never tried one of their scopes but believe it or not I went to high school with the daughter who appears in the ad. There's a son too but he wasn't pretty enough to get in an ad I guess. Freaked me out the first time I saw that ad later in life after getting into guns, then I went to the SHOT show and sure enough she was there and doing well. Small world.

[Mr.RoDiN]

How about these Tasco Super Sniper scopes? Any info about them. Or should I just pay the extra and buy another leupold?

[ivanimal]

[metalhead357]

How about these Tasco Super Sniper scopes? Any info about them. Or should I just pay the extra and buy another leupold?

I've NEVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVER had any luck with Tasco. Top of thier line, middle of thier line or even thier crap line when I was using them for BB guns.

(Flamesuit ON) I think for the money....for the money...the Busnell Ellite series are the best bang for the (cheap) buck............ but there ain't NOTHING wrong with Leupold....still the best standard to judge most every other brand against.

[jlmurphy]

I have a World Class Tasco from about 10 yrs ago that was made in Japan that is a great scope. I also have a $100 Tasco POS from 3 yrs ago that the NEW Tasco won't repair. I think when a line is debuted they CAN be great, but quality control usually drops off and you get a lowest common denominator product. I have a Nikon Buckmaster 4.5x14 AO that I haven't been able to kill on my Mini 14 heavy barreled semi auto, for the money it seems like a good deal, I would buy another. For my best .308 bolt gun, I took the plunge and bought a Nightforce NXS 5.5x22x50, a lot of money,the rifle isn't finished yet, so I don't know how it compares, we'll see.

[6172crew]

I've NEVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVER had any luck with Tasco. Top of thier line, middle of thier line or even thier crap line when I was using them for BB guns.

(Flamesuit ON) I think for the money....for the money...the Busnell Ellite series are the best bang for the (cheap) buck............ but there ain't NOTHING wrong with Leupold....still the best standard to judge most every other brand against.

I think both of these scopes (the SS and the Elites) are great but totally different.

The Super Sniper was designed but not made by Tasco, SFWA is the only one selling them and the 30mm tube has enough adjusment to bring it out to 700 plus yards but isnt as bright and clear as the Elite 1" tubes that Bushnell uses. Ive had access to both of these scopes and both are good but are ment for totally different jobs IMHO.

The SS is good to go on a .50BMG and has a very good warranty(lifetime).
The bushnell glass is very bright and very clear and easy on the pocket book and comes in alot of styles, maganafication, etc.

Get both!

[xenophobe]

The optics are clear and as good as an european glass,

Perhaps you could compare them to IOR.... they are in the quality range near Leupold's top end and IOR, but they surely aren't in the range of Schmidt-Bender, Swarovski or Zeiss. Perhaps nearing Kahles, which I would stilll prefer a VX3 over.

they were the first US company to coat lenses.

Shepard coats glass? They were the first US company to coat lenses? I have to call a BIG bs on that one. They don't coat glass, nor do they grind lenses. They most likely get their coated lenses from the same company Leupold does... Sagamihara glassworks, owned by Nikon.

[ivanimal]

Perhaps you could compare them to IOR.... they are in the quality range near Leupold's top end and IOR, but they surely aren't in the range of Schmidt-Bender, Swarovski or Zeiss. Perhaps nearing Kahles, which I would stilll prefer a VX3 over.



Shepard coats glass? They were the first US company to coat lenses? I have to call a BIG bs on that one. They don't coat glass, nor do they grind lenses. They most likely get their coated lenses from the same company Leupold does... Sagamihara glassworks, owned by Nikon.

Have you looked through a Shepherd? You would probably feel different. I was in Reno at the NRA national convention when Mr. Shepherd told me of his quest to compete with the europeans and their optics. He is the person that told me of their lenses and coatings. What reason does he have to lie? I already had bought his scope and was trelling him of my hunting experience with his product. He was sharing his pride in an American made product that is every bit as good as his competition. It sounds like you have great knowlege in optics, good for you. I have only practical knowlege.

Sorry I called it glass, please forgive me for stepping on sacred ground.


The requestor asked about a product I actually own.

[Mute]

I have looked through a Sheperd. Have you looked through a Schmidt & Bender scope? The optical quality does not come close.

[ivanimal]

[xenophobe]

Have you looked through a Shepherd? You would probably feel different.

Yes, I have.... several of them. And I didn't say they weren't nice scopes. Their sighting and zero system are unique, and you either love it or hate it. I don't particularly care for it, but it's good glass.

I was in Reno at the NRA national convention when Mr. Shepherd told me of his quest to compete with the europeans and their optics. He is the person that told me of their lenses and coatings. What reason does he have to lie?

Hmm....

In 1980, Burris became the first American manufacturer to offer scopes with multi-coated lenses.

http://www.chuckhawks.com/overview_burris_optics.htm

According to the Shepherd website, their first scope didn't come out until 1983, and they use Japanese lenses.

Sorry, the numbers don't add up. If he was the first person to use coated lenses in scopes in 1983, and Burris started using multi-coated lenses in 1980, there's a bit of a problem there, don't you think?

I already had bought his scope and was trelling him of my hunting experience with his product. He was sharing his pride in an American made product that is every bit as good as his competition. It sounds like you have great knowlege in optics, good for you. I have only practical knowlege.

Sorry I called it glass, please forgive me for stepping on sacred ground.


The requestor asked about a product I actually own.

And I haven't said anything negative about Shepherd. Just trying to get the facts straight...