Russian RAK AK47 Rifle Red Classic

[IEatZ28]

Well now I'm jealous. I shouldn't have asked! Hahaha

[offrdmania]

As said above, converted Saiga, Ironwood style furniture, and a super inflated price.
Buy yourself a used Saiga from the classifieds here, convert it yourself and put real Russian furniture on it and you should be able to accomplish the same result for less than half what they are asking.

[david_place_834]

For that price you should consider the Arsenal Sam7r-51 from this site. In my opinion, it's a great AK, if not the best current production AK. I know a few who have ordered from rrc. That said, I have ordered from Atlantic Firearms and have had no issues. Prices are higher as can be expected from a respected suppler.

I'll be get this one soon.

http://www.rrcfirearms.com/pd-arsenal-sam7r-51-ak47.cfm

[junk1]

Wow. I guess I better start researching some more! What do you guys think about Krebs?

[MrPlink]

Krebs are phenomenal. Also Saiga based. They really go over the rifle with a fine tooth comb and it shows. Definitely comes at a premium.

[IEatZ28]

Krebs are sweet rifles, I don't like arsenal personally.

[Wes C Addle]

i believe Krebs are SLR based and those are a no go here.

[junk1]

what does SLR mean? (sorry. I'm still learning)

[david_place_834]

what does SLR mean? (sorry. I'm still learning)

SLR Ak's are manufactured completely in-house by Arsenal of Bulgaria using Arsenal stamped receivers and new Bulgarian parts.

Sam7r's are manufactered completely in-house by Arsenal of Bulgaria using Arsenal milled receivers and new Bulgarian parts.

SGL AK's were converted by Arsenal of Bulgaria from Russian Saigas (sporting AK's) from Izhmash, the only genuine manufacturer of the Russian AKM and AK-74. Part sources are a mix of Bulgarian, Russian, and US. These were a limited run and very well received by AK enthusiasts.

Krebs, Rifle Dynamics, and many other companies (Atlantic Firearms included) convert Russian Saigas themselves to match Izhmash AKM's. Parts can be a mix, mystery, or consistent. Many countries have made their own AKM's (China, Egypt, Israel, Yugoslavia, United States etc....)

Or,you can do the Saiga conversion yourself. Many here on Calguns are hobbyist. It's $$$$ depending on how genuine Izhmash you want it. You can customize your rifle to your content. It also requires quite a bit of expertise, research, and know how.

Arsenal SLR's are "BANNED BY NAME" in California. But, you can still find a few Arsenal SGL's around.

I still think you should get an Arsenal Sam7r if you want top quality from the start. Or a Zastava NPAP, or a Romanian WASR if you want budget quality as an entry point.

[Dhena81]

i believe Krebs are SLR based and those are a no go here.

An Arsenal SLR unfortunately are a no go.

[beanz2]

i believe Krebs are SLR based and those are a no go here.

I beg to differ on the SLR-based Krebs. Krebs considers his rifles remanufactured by his company and stamps them as such with his company name and a new model number. Some OP-14's have been DROSed in CA


And, not all Krebs are based on the SLR. The KV-13 is VEPR or Saiga based, some OP-14 are Saiga based.

[geoint]

i believe Krebs are SLR based and those are a no go here.

My KV-13 was built off of a VEPR...

Krebs are phenomenal. Also Saiga based. They really go over the rifle with a fine tooth comb and it shows. Definitely comes at a premium.

Very true but it is without question the nicest firearm I own. I like my Krebs more than my Les Baer or Sig 220 X6

[Wes C Addle]

word. i didn't say all of krebs were SLRs jeeze guys

[kalieracer]

Let me fix this for you


SLR Ak's are manufactured completely in-house by Arsenal of Bulgaria using Arsenal stamped receivers and new Bulgarian parts. These are commercial offerings and not really milspec. They are often confused with Russian 100 series guns but are not the same thing.

SGL AK's were converted by Arsenal Las Vegas from semi finished sporters imported from Izhmash. These are as close to an export AK74m-1 or AK103-1 are you going to get. It is to be noted these only have the sporter tigger slot for import purposes and don't have any welded up holes . Parts are 95% russian with the exception of .922r parts and models that have combo gas blocks. Also keep in mind that AKM and AK74 models were / produced by Tula and Molot also. Currently Izhmash does not produce any AKM's but Molot does.

Sam7r's are manufactered completely in-house by Arsenal of Bulgaria using Arsenal milled receivers and new Bulgarian parts. - There are US made receivers and built guns in the SA M7r series too made by Arsenal Los Vegas. They have different SN prefix

SLR Ak's are manufactured completely in-house by Arsenal of Bulgaria using Arsenal stamped receivers and new Bulgarian parts.

Sam7r's are manufactered completely in-house by Arsenal of Bulgaria using Arsenal milled receivers and new Bulgarian parts.

SGL AK's were converted by Arsenal of Bulgaria from Russian Saigas (sporting AK's) from Izhmash, the only genuine manufacturer of the Russian AKM and AK-74. Part sources are a mix of Bulgarian, Russian, and US. These were a limited run and very well received by AK enthusiasts.

Krebs, Rifle Dynamics, and many other companies (Atlantic Firearms included) convert Russian Saigas themselves to match Izhmash AKM's. Parts can be a mix, mystery, or consistent. Many countries have made their own AKM's (China, Egypt, Israel, Yugoslavia, United States etc....)

Or,you can do the Saiga conversion yourself. Many here on Calguns are hobbyist. It's $$$$ depending on how genuine Izhmash you want it. You can customize your rifle to your content. It also requires quite a bit of expertise, research, and know how.

Arsenal SLR's are "BANNED BY NAME" in California. But, you can still find a few Arsenal SGL's around.

I still think you should get an Arsenal Sam7r if you want top quality from the start. Or a Zastava NPAP, or a Romanian WASR if you want budget quality as an entry point.

[kalieracer]

Honestly for that price just be on the look out for a NIB SGL or Legion MK103 if you really want top quality russian gun of the modern flavor. If you are looking for an AKM pattern and it has to be factory wait for imports of Vepr K models
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7wdmuT43wE

Otherwise there are all sorts of great older models that are off list. If you are just looking for a good gun NPAP/OPAP or WASR

Hello Everyone. I'm a rookie when it comes to firearms. But I am interested in getting a top quality AK in the near future. Does anyone know if this AK from Atlantic fire arms https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/com....html?Itemid=0
is a well quality AK? If not. Some suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks all.