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  • GoingPro
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 1451

    Pro's and Con's; Bullet Button and Prince 50?

    just wondering whats the difference is between the two...i know that with the bullet button you can just use a bullet tip to take out the magazine....how about the prince 50 ? what would you prefer and why?
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    Capt. Speirs
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 1232

    Originally posted by GoingPro
    just wondering whats the difference is between the two...i know that with the bullet button you can just use a bullet tip to take out the magazine....how about the prince 50 ? what would you prefer and why?
    BB you can change mags at the range and Prince50 you have to top load at the range.
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    • #3
      ohsmily
      Calguns Addict
      • Apr 2005
      • 8938

      The ONLY advantage of a P50 over the bullet button is that it only takes the turn of a screw to restore it to "free state status." So, if you go shoot in NV or AZ every once in a while, the P50 makes it easier to switch to a standard mag release.

      The B15 is the best of both worlds and operates as a bullet button in one mode and with the turn of a screw becomes a standard magazine release for free state shooting.
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      • #4
        AdamM
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2008
        • 850

        B15 is my favorite.

        Not the prettiest, but most practical IMO

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        • #5
          nobs11
          Banned
          • Jun 2008
          • 1381

          -Do you travel with your AR to a state where you can legally detach magazines without tools and use features? If not you don't care about the Prince 50.

          -Do you live in CA alone and want to use features but don't mind the inconvenience of using a tool to drop your mags? Get a BB.

          -Do you live in CA alone and don't want to use a tool to release mags but don't mind giving up features? Use a MonsterMan grip or the U-15 stock. Also the only option if you have high cap magazines that you might want to use.

          If you use the search, this topic has been discussed ad naseum.

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          • #6
            aplinker
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Feb 2007
            • 16762

            You covered the functional difference.

            Prince50 is the original locked magazine device. Since then, the bullet button came into use. With a P50 you have to top load by separating the upper from the lower (sucks). With a BB you drop the mag with a tool and insert another.

            BB>>>>P50

            The B15 is a nice option. Search B15 in the thread title and you'll see what it is/looks like. It's a small cage over a mag release that operates like a BB, but is quickly removable if you go out of state.



            It has it in the title, I guess it's too short, though.
            Last edited by aplinker; 11-04-2008, 3:54 PM.

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            • #7
              CHS
              Moderator Emeritus
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Jan 2008
              • 11338

              Originally posted by ohsmily
              The ONLY advantage of a P50 over the bullet button is that it only takes the turn of a screw to restore it to "free state status." So, if you go shoot in NV or AZ every once in a while, the P50 makes it easier to switch to a standard mag release.

              The B15 is the best of both worlds and operates as a bullet button in one mode and with the turn of a screw becomes a standard magazine release for free state shooting.
              Yeah, what he said.

              Even with the ease of returning a P50 gun back to "free state" status, it still only takes about 60 seconds to return a BB gun to the same. And a bullet button is far more convenient inside of CA. I keep the parts in the trap door of my pistol grip for just such an occasion

              The nice thing about a BB is that you can't get popped for felony AW possession if you slip up and leave an empty magwell. With the P50 you can't have an empty magwell unless you pull the upper first (or otherwise remove the prohibited features).

              Go with the BB.
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              • #8
                Gryff
                CGSSA Coordinator
                • May 2006
                • 12679

                Originally posted by uclaplinker
                Search B15 in the thread title and you'll see what it is/looks like.
                Results of search:
                Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.
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                • #9
                  vinny_land
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 3374

                  Try "B15 Bullet Button"
                  "1911 mag, twinkie, twinkie, cupcake, primary weapon mag"

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                  • #10
                    nobs11
                    Banned
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 1381

                    Originally posted by Gryff
                    Results of search:
                    Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.
                    Try "B-15 bullet button." I got 493 threads.

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                    • #11
                      aplinker
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 16762


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                      • #12
                        rabagley
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 7180

                        Okay, so I'm sold and I want four.

                        One little problem:

                        Who has them in stock?

                        Riflegear doesn't. tenpercent doesn't list them in the storefront. Can't find product lists from anyone else online.
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                        • #13
                          shark92651
                          Vendor/Retailer
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 5431

                          Originally posted by rabagley
                          Okay, so I'm sold and I want four.

                          One little problem:

                          Who has them in stock?

                          Riflegear doesn't. tenpercent doesn't list them in the storefront. Can't find product lists from anyone else online.
                          To my knowledge nobody has the B15 in stock. The forum members "sold" you a product that isn't available right now More are supposed to be entering production soon but no firm delivery date is set yet.

                          I'd be happy to sell you a BB or two to hold you over if you like
                          Last edited by shark92651; 11-04-2008, 7:32 PM. Reason: typo
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                          • #14
                            Gryff
                            CGSSA Coordinator
                            • May 2006
                            • 12679

                            Originally posted by shark92651
                            I'd be happy to sell you a BB or two to hold you over if you like
                            Might be a valid idea. You can always re-sell here it on CalGuns once the B15 becomes available.
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                            • #15
                              ThomasMagnum
                              Member
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 136

                              Try cold war shooters. I bought a few the other day and they are on the way. I don't have them in hand but I did call to make sure that they were actually the B-15s and they confirmed it.

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