SHTF rifle stock

[X-NewYawker]

This all reaffirms why we have to vote for McCain tomorrow. Imagine California's stupid gun laws nationwide?

And don't tell me "it can't happen" -- I heard that HERE in the early 1990s...

[M. Sage]

Taking a step back, it's kind of funny that we're even having this sort of discussion about the law and such.

1) First off, the existing gun control laws here in Calif. are absolutely un-Constitutional, and here we are acting as if they are legitimate. Shows how our mindsets have been subdued somewhat already. We should view these laws as an illegitimate intrusion on our true rights, like dogsh-t on our boots and not give it as much elevation/respect as we have so far.

Yeah, but that unconstitutional stuff will still land you in prison. Are you volunteering to go first?

I do not view it as legitimate, however the threat of prison and spending hundreds of thousands of dollars I don't have to get a conviction reversed forces me to grudgingly follow the "rules" in place.

Then again... if you want to go first, and if you've got the time and money to get this BS overturned, be my guest.

[nobs11]

1) First off, the existing gun control laws here in Calif. are absolutely un-Constitutional, and here we are acting as if they are legitimate. Shows how our mindsets have been subdued somewhat already. We should view these laws as an illegitimate intrusion on our true rights, like dogsh-t on our boots and not give it as much elevation/respect as we have so far.

Nice sentiment. But say that again when the cops haul you off to jail for possessing an illegal AW when the dust settles down and your wife and kids are bawling. No offense, but breaking the law has consequences, if not for you, for your loved ones.

3) Considering that the federal courts ruled in favor of the New Orleans homeowners who were wrongly disarmed during Katrina and that Americans generally approve of people defending their families in SHTF and home-invasion situations, even if we were to face prosecution at the local level, we could appeal to the Heller decision and fight to win at the federal level. Heller claimed a need to defend himself in his home, and we can do the same with a lot of public sympathy (from the red states, if not the blue).

They people whose rights were restored were legal gun owners. Not people committing felonies.

[Clodbuster]

Your neighbors are most likely Californians...weened by the government to think that anyone brandishing a military looking rifle is either a cop or a psychotic mass murderer.

Clod

After all, we're Americans aren't we? That's what Americans do when the SHTF.

[Paratus et Vigilans]

Your neighbors are most likely Californians...weened by the government to think that anyone brandishing a military looking rifle is either a cop or a psychotic mass murderer.

Clod

Actually, I live near a large USMC base and my neighbors often see me packing all my high power gear into and out of the SUV on match days, so they'll probably think I'm a retired Marine (I'm not) and know WTF I'm doing with my EBR's (I do).

[zeus45c]

I have a U-15. I am able to maintain maximum control over the weapon during mag changes and malfunction drills. It's similar to using a comb stock and that works for me. It does add some heft to the rifle however. If you throw in a railed hand guard, an optic, and a tactical light then the overall weight may be a bit much but with proper training that becomes a moot point...unless you are part of the daily patrol around the neighborhood.

For me SHTF also includes forced entry home burglary. I won't have time to convert anything. Plus pre-bans are my friend If anyone wants to try out a U-15 hit me up by IM. We can meet at ASR some time.

[m98]

If SHTF you will not have to worry about mag locks or monster man grips. There will be no laws.

X10.......in a REAL BAD SHTF, cops will have other things to worry of instead of protecting law abiding citizens....It's ones responsibility to protect themselves and family/friends. Only the weak (people who believes in 100% dail-9-1-1/police& govt. protection) will not survive a SHTF.