What cleaning supplies do I need for Rem 700 5R?

[ar15barrels]

Lynn, I've seen a huge push towards no bronze brushes but you seem to be using them still. Is this something that the bench rest guys are still doing?

Another big push is towards minimal cleaning, like 200-400 rounds between cleaning. I just recently cleaned my tac rifle after about 275 rounds and it took me about 11 rounds to get back to shooting it's normal groups. Are the bench guys not worrying about this?

Benchrest shooter still clean super often, like between stages of fire.
They shoot sighters to get the gun the right amount of dirty before going back to score shooting.

[WyattandDoc]

Avoid metal brushes.
If you MUST brush the barrel, use a nylon brush.
I don't use brushes at all since I discovered Wipe Out.

Wipe Out is a foam that you squirt in the bore and it gets everything out.
I let it soak for an hour or two each time.
Then, you pust push two patches down the barrel with a rod and a bore guide.
A really dirty barrel will take perhaps 6-8 cleanings, but after that, 1 or 2 will do it.
Don't over-clean the rifle.
It should only need to be cleaned every 300-400 rounds after your first day of shooting it.
You want to get it perfectly clean after the first day because a brand new barrel will copper foul during the first few shots and that fouling stays there until you remove it.
Once you clean the initial fouling, additional shots down the barrel just smooth it out and copper fouling will be dramatically reduced.

Just bought some.

Does the Bore Guide prevent the foam from getting past the throat or is that soemthing you don't have to worry about with this stuff?

[ar15barrels]

Just bought some.

Does the Bore Guide prevent the foam from getting past the throat or is that soemthing you don't have to worry about with this stuff?

Get a 6" long piece of 1/4" ID x 7/16" OD vinal tubing from the pet store.
That should slide on the nozzle of the can.
Setup the rifle on a rest with the muzzle 10degrees down angle and over a trash can to catch the drips.
Slip the tubing into the chamber so that it's a snug fit.



Shake the can really good.
Put the tubing on to the can and give a 1/2 second long squirt.
You will want your other hand in front of the muzzle to catch the foam blob that goes flying.
Keep the tubing tight in the chamber until the foam snake quits oozing out of the muzzle.
At that point, disconnect the tubing from the chamber and let the barrel sit a few hours.

After a few hours, push two patches through the barrel and repeat the foaming cycles until you don't have any blue on the patches anymore.

[JMP]

I use this one:



Have you observed a difference among the foams? I like this one because it has a nozzle, but the vinyl tubing is a nifty idea. I haven't really compared ingredients or results. I am guilty of being a dirty gun shooter, especially with stuff like .308 where I just shoot jacketed Sierras.

[ar15barrels]

I use this one:



Have you observed a difference among the foams? I like this one because it has a nozzle, but the vinyl tubing is a nifty idea. I haven't really compared ingredients or results. I am guilty of being a dirty gun shooter, especially with stuff like .308 where I just shoot jacketed Sierras.

I ran out of wipe-out once and bought another type.
It didn't work as well so I threw it out and got another can of wipe-out.

[JMP]

I ran out of wipe-out once and bought another type.
It didn't work as well so I threw it out and got another can of wipe-out.

I'll have to give wipe-out a try, especially with that nifty nozzle design--that's a great idea.

[LynnJr]

Lynn, I've seen a huge push towards no bronze brushes but you seem to be using them still. Is this something that the bench rest guys are still doing?

Another big push is towards minimal cleaning, like 200-400 rounds between cleaning. I just recently cleaned my tac rifle after about 275 rounds and it took me about 11 rounds to get back to shooting it's normal groups. Are the bench guys not worrying about this?

Brian
The benchrest crowd is still using bronze brushes as Randall has pointed out.When your barrel is clean you will lose about 125 fps so you need to shoot two shots in order for the point of aim to return.The longer you wait between strings the longer the barrel will take to settle back down.
My fathers test rifle took 22 shots before it came back so we went back to regular cleaning and its back to two rounds now.
Cleaning is discipline specific meaning anything after 20 shots and your accuracy is degrading. You pick the round count at which you can no longer lose accuracy and then clean.
I put 80 rounds down a 6 Dasher and borescoped the barrel.It looked like chrome with a smoky tint to it and 3 very very small drops of coca cola colored carbon.Absolutely no powder kernels at all.
That said as a barrel ages and becomes fiirecracked it will hold more fouling and become harder to clean. I avoid that by keeping my barrels clean from the start.

[LynnJr]

For the guys shooting with Muzzlebrakes Wipe-Out Accelerator will clean the gills faster than just about anything on the market today. Remove the brake and cover it in a slim glass with Accelerator for an hour.The fouling will fall off.

[bsumoba]

For the guys shooting with Muzzlebrakes Wipe-Out Accelerator will clean the gills faster than just about anything on the market today. Remove the brake and cover it in a slim glass with Accelerator for an hour.The fouling will fall off.

What is a slim glass and what is acceleraror? you mean it could get this stuff off my brake?

[drew4392]

Avoid metal brushes.
If you MUST brush the barrel, use a nylon brush.
I don't use brushes at all since I discovered Wipe Out.

Wipe Out is a foam that you squirt in the bore and it gets everything out.
I let it soak for an hour or two each time.
Then, you pust push two patches down the barrel with a rod and a bore guide.
A really dirty barrel will take perhaps 6-8 cleanings, but after that, 1 or 2 will do it.
Don't over-clean the rifle.
It should only need to be cleaned every 300-400 rounds after your first day of shooting it.
You want to get it perfectly clean after the first day because a brand new barrel will copper foul during the first few shots and that fouling stays there until you remove it.
Once you clean the initial fouling, additional shots down the barrel just smooth it out and copper fouling will be dramatically reduced.

Being that you built most of this gun that I now own, I will be following this advice. Thanks for the awesome rifle.

[joefrank64k]

What is a slim glass and what is acceleraror? you mean it could get this stuff off my brake?

Accelerator for Wipe Out 'speeds up' Wipe-Out. I've only used Accelerator a few times, I can't say for sure if it really makes Wipe-Out work faster.

http://www.sharpshootr.com/accelerator-for-wipe-out/

[JMP]

What is a slim glass and what is acceleraror? you mean it could get this stuff off my brake?

bsumoba, I retract my statement about shooting dirty guns. I have NOTHING on that brake, ewwwww. I'd just wipe that crap out with solvent on a Q-tip.

[ar15barrels]

This is a perfect example of why you only need 1 port on a muzzle brake.
Notice how the first port is clean, the 2nd has a little build-up and the 3rd os really dirty?
If you look at how clean a port is, that is showing you how well that particular port is working.
If carbon is building up, that's a sign that there is not enough pressure in that port to wipe off the carbon, let alone to give you recoil reduction from trying to pull the gun forward.

So, the rear port is working well.
The 2nd port is still helping a little (not much) and the front port is useless.

[LynnJr]

What is a slim glass and what is acceleraror? you mean it could get this stuff off my brake?

Brian
Accelerator is supposed to help out regular Wipe-Out so it doesn't take as long to work. Most solvents work but shooters never give them a chance as they clean to fast.
The slim glass is so the Accelerator doesn't eat up a plastic or waxed paper cup and by being slim you don't need as much Accelerator.
I use the Accelerator all by itself on my muzzlebrakes.
If I use Wipe-Out I put a flexible brake line on it so it doesnt get in my action or trigger.

[dskit]

Randall - curious as to what muzzle brake you recommend...I've been on the fence about them for years. Some people love them, some have had troubles with them.