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  • 30Carbine
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2013
    • 84

    444 Marlin Primer Popping out

    I have a 444 marlin. Every time I shoot it it pops the primers out just a little. Does it with factory and reloads. Every time. I had a gun smith look at it. Said it's fine.

    I have a close friend that recommend I get a second opinion. (He only cares). I was told this is common for 444 marlin since it's a heavy, hot load. This is the only gun i have this happen with.

    Any thoughts?
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    Thorax
    Banned
    • Apr 2010
    • 915

    headspace

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    • #3
      NorCalFocus
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2013
      • 3913

      headspace....hmmm a concerned friend said some thing to that effect

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      • #4
        30Carbine
        Junior Member
        • Nov 2013
        • 84

        my concerned freind....See thread. (inside joke)...sorry Cal guns. Thanks Thorax. I'll have it checked again.

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        • #5
          762cavalier
          NRA Training Counselor
          CGN Contributor
          • Oct 2005
          • 3626

          The 444 marlin is a rimmed cartridge. while a headspace issue is possible it is also very unlikely. Is this a new gun? Used?
          In any type of fight, & especially gun fights, there are no winners ..... just varying degrees of losers. The only fight you win is the one you never get into.

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          • #6
            30Carbine
            Junior Member
            • Nov 2013
            • 84

            Older. 60's

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            • #7
              30Carbine
              Junior Member
              • Nov 2013
              • 84

              Sorry I was mistaken....1974

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              • #8
                pacrat
                I need a LIFE!!
                • May 2014
                • 10285

                Originally posted by 30Carbine
                I have a 444 marlin. Every time I shoot it it pops the primers out just a little. Does it with factory and reloads. Every time. I had a gun smith look at it. Said it's fine.

                I have a close friend that recommend I get a second opinion. (He only cares). I was told this is common for 444 marlin since it's a heavy, hot load. This is the only gun i have this happen with.

                Any thoughts?
                It is only a "hot load" if compared to the 45-70 at 28k psi. Actually its rated pressure of 42k psi is same as the 30-30 and 32 Win Spl which are considered anemic by modern standards. But with them you can fireform and neck size and alleviate the protruding primers. Can't do that with a straight walled cartrige such as your .444.

                Same primer protrusion is common on all of the above due to low pressure.

                JM2c

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                • #9
                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 57171

                  Originally posted by 30Carbine
                  I have a 444 marlin. Every time I shoot it it pops the primers out just a little.
                  Does it with factory and reloads. Every time. I had a gun smith look at it. Said it's fine.

                  Any thoughts?
                  The only way a primer can pop out that far in a locked breech gun is if the gun has excessive headspace or of the case rims are way too thin.
                  Find a better gunsmith.
                  Randall Rausch

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                  • #10
                    30Carbine
                    Junior Member
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 84

                    could it be a worn bolt face?

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                    • #11
                      ar15barrels
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 57171

                      Originally posted by 30Carbine
                      could it be a worn bolt face?
                      It could.
                      But 99.9% of the time, it is not.

                      Is there a big deep pocket worn in the breech?
                      Randall Rausch

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                      • #12
                        30Carbine
                        Junior Member
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 84

                        where specifically? everything looks normal to me. And the face looks flat. I'll put a Snap cap in later and see that it sits snug against the face.

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                        • #13
                          ar15barrels
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 57171

                          Originally posted by 30Carbine
                          where specifically?
                          Where the primer sits.
                          Basically a 1/4" diameter area centered on the firing pin hole.
                          Randall Rausch

                          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                          Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                          Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                          • #14
                            30Carbine
                            Junior Member
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 84

                            no thats fine. totally flat.

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                            • #15
                              Spyder
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 17228

                              Tagged for identical problem on a Marlin 1893

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