PPT out of state or 80%?

[RandyRhoads]

As I understand right now you are allowed to use your dual residency to buy out of state in your other home residency state, but that is going away in about a month.

Should one jump on this before it's too late, like SSE here?

What would be more desirable to you, or the average person. An 80% build or an out of state PPT? Pretty much the same thing?

[Subotai]

The out of state gun will still have a paper trail. Pay cash for the 80%.

[RandyRhoads]

The out of state gun will still have a paper trail. Pay cash for the 80%.

Thank you. That takes the pressure off of buying an AR I don't want right now.


But what about handguns? I understand there still will be a DROS to the original purchaser but if it's PPT and they have no record of who purchased it, the paper trail would end somewhere around "I don't know, I sold it to some guy" wouldn't it? AZ law doesn't require the transfer to be done through an FFL

Police always had a hard time when they'd run my XD40 legally purchased PPT while I was stationed in KY. SN not found, like it didn't exist in CAs eyes. Now of course had it been a murder weapon i'm sure they would have researched it, but it didn't seem to have much of a trail.

[uxo2]

Police always had a hard time when they'd run my XD40 legally purchased PPT while I was stationed in KY. SN not found, like it didn't exist in CAs eyes..

Why are they running your number.

I have never had any LE run numbers on any firearm I own?

[RandyRhoads]

Why are they running your number.

I have never had any LE run numbers on any firearm I own?

Irrelevant to thread, but if you're curious...

Once I was receiving death threats from an ex's boyfriend and they had an officer dispatched to my house. Looking back I don't know why he felt it necessary to run MY firearms, but he did.

Another incident I was legally hunting on a farmers land with permission. Two officers came up, both came out of the SUV with their ARs drawn on me and commanded I dropped the weapon. Once again serial numbers ran, they were suspicious but apparently after radioing in to dispatch they found out it was legal, and I had broken no laws so they let me go on my merry way.

I just have bad luck with things like that, doesn't matter if i'm breaking any laws.

[halifax]

Police always had a hard time when they'd run my XD40 legally purchased PPT while I was stationed in KY. SN not found, like it didn't exist in CAs eyes.

So, you didn't voluntarily register it as a CA resident?

[RandyRhoads]

So, you didn't voluntarily register it as a CA resident?

Funny you should bring that up. I actually tried to. I felt uneasy about an unregistered handgun in CA. No matter if DOJ or the LGS told me if was fine, it felt like it wasn't, being in this great state and all. I still tried to do it. Brought it to the LGS and they said are you crazy?? All you're gonna do is pay us money to sit here and stare at it for a few days then come pick it up. Go home.


So I did.

[ke6guj]

Funny you should bring that up. I actually tried to. I felt uneasy about an unregistered handgun in CA. No matter if DOJ or the LGS told me if was fine, it felt like it wasn't, being in this great state and all. I still tried to do it. Brought it to the LGS and they said are you crazy?? All you're gonna do is pay us money to sit here and stare at it for a few days then come pick it up. Go home.


So I did.

that is because you attempted to do it the wrong way.

this is the form they want you to use, no LGS involved in the process, http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/ag...s/ab991frm.pdf

[RandyRhoads]

that is because you attempted to do it the wrong way.

this is the form they want you to use, no LGS involved in the process, http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/ag...s/ab991frm.pdf

The declaration of ownership was also involved. They said they also have to do the 10 day wait period (makes no sense) and sit on it. They said none of it was required and pointless, so don't bother.



Getting a little off topic. Is that something new and required? Would I have to declare it and give SN regardless now? This was several years ago.

[ke6guj]

The declaration of ownership was also involved. They said they also have to do the 10 day wait period (makes no sense) and sit on it. They said none of it was required and pointless, so don't bother.

they were wrong, you just fill out the form and send it to CADOJ, there is no 10-day wait involved at the LGS. the LGS is not involved in this at all.

Getting a little off topic. Is that something new and required? Would I have to declare it and give SN regardless now? This was several years ago.

ever since 1998. if you imported after 1998 and want to "get legal", you can fill out the form and send it in now.

[RandyRhoads]

they were wrong, you just fill out the form and send it to CADOJ, there is no 10-day wait involved at the LGS. the LGS is not involved in this at all.

ever since 1998. if you imported after 1998 and want to "get legal", you can fill out the form and send it in now.

Well all my firearms now were purchased with a DROS. I lost that handgun, and a bunch other guns in a house fire.

So now it sounds like there is no point to getting a PPT out of state anyway. You need to submit it to DOJ regardless? Was I not in compliance owning that handgun without submitting that form? Eh, glad I didn't get into trouble and it's gone now if so.

[ke6guj]

So now it sounds like there is no point to getting a PPT out of state anyway. You need to submit it to DOJ regardless?

if you move into the state after 1998, then yes, it needs to be registered with CADOJ no matter how you acquired it out of state.

Was I not in compliance owning that handgun without submitting that form? Eh, glad I didn't get into trouble and it's gone now if so.

correct, technically out of compliance.

[RandyRhoads]

if you move into the state after 1998, then yes, it needs to be registered with CADOJ no matter how you acquired it out of state.

correct, technically out of compliance.

Well, that puts and end to this thread, and any pressure felt to hurry up and buy something I didn't want anyway. Thanks.

[Thorax]

I have had popo run numbers on my weapons in a very republican state (Arkansas).
I was there hunting (legally) and the cop was being a full Richard, but it can and does happen.

Every weapon he ran the serials on and this was about 25 years ago.
The only thing he could check was that they were not stolen, was no DROS back in those days.

Takes a long time, hours sitting there waiting.

[RandyRhoads]

I have had popo run numbers on my weapons in a very republican state (Arkansas).
I was there hunting (legally) and the cop was being a full Richard, but it can and does happen.

Every weapon he ran the serials on and this was about 25 years ago.
The only thing he could check was that they were not stolen, was no DROS back in those days.

Takes a long time, hours sitting there waiting.

Doesn't it make you feel great? Guilty until proven innocent, right?

In the first instance of mine I had a viable threat to me and my families life, and called for assistance. I understand not wanting loading firearms around, but why did he really feel the need to run my SN? I actually liked the officer, but I still don't understand what that was for, some sort of protocol?