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  • Rangem4
    Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 407

    Remington 700/.222rem Egg Shoot Questions

    Good Day Gents and Ladies,
    I have a nice older Remington 700 ADL chambered in >222rem.
    I plan on using this rifle to gain bragging rights at my range.
    My questions are, the eggs are at 245 yards, will this rifle barrel stay consistent for 6 shots? The reason I ask, this is a deer rifle, not designed to shoot multiple rounds at a given target.
    I put a Vortex 6X24X50 scope on it.
    My concern is the first shot being cold and then the stability of this barrel when it heats up. I am also challenged at the end of the 6th shot we shoot at a paint ball at 50 yards. I will need to know where to aim.
    I am hoping to find an experienced 700 .222 or similar rifle owner out there that may be able to provide some pointers on this type of challenge.
    I do reload so the expense is mitigated somewhat. The last box of commercial .222 remington I saw was $29 for 20. Whew!
    I forgot to mention, we get one shot to heat up the barrel, then we shoot our five shots at five eggs then we have a timed slot to hit the paint ball.
    Thank you!
    sigpicA well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
  • #2
    Thorax
    Banned
    • Apr 2010
    • 915

    A paintball is what, 53 caliber ?
    An egg is about 1.5 inches across the center ?

    The rifle can handle way more shots than that before changing POI.
    the real questions are
    Is the rifle really that accurate ? (yes I know a 222 shoots like a laser beam, the question isn't the round, it's the 1970's era bone stock looking rifle)
    Can you shoot that well ? (you are the one asking if the barrel is stable for 6-7 shots so I have to question your ability to pull it off).

    BTW, at least clean that nasty rust from the bolt handle

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    • #3
      dskit
      Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 393

      The only way to know for sure is to put as many shots on paper at 300 and 50 in the amount of time allotted and see what happens.

      There no easy answers to questions like this - every rifle has it's own personality.
      _____________________________________________
      Originally posted by bubbapug1
      And so what do you count ?

      Everyone's an expert on the Internet but I'm thinking you are a poser.

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      • #4
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 57175

        The paintball at 50yds is actually an easier target than the eggs at 245yds.

        Make a target with 5 eggs on it.
        Go set it up at 245yds.
        Make a paintball target and put it at 50yds.
        Get zeroed on the eggs.
        Then, shoot the paintball and observe where your bullets go.
        Don't forget to adjust parallax as switching from 245yds to 50yds will screw that up bigtime.
        Now you can see where your 50yd shots go with your 245yd zero.
        On the day of the competition, simply adjust your hold accordingly for the paintball.
        Randall Rausch

        AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
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        Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
        Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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        • #5
          Rangem4
          Member
          • Jun 2012
          • 407

          Originally posted by ar15barrels
          The paintball at 50yds is actually an easier target than the eggs at 245yds.

          Make a target with 5 eggs on it.
          Go set it up at 245yds.
          Make a paintball target and put it at 50yds.
          Get zeroed on the eggs.
          Then, shoot the paintball and observe where your bullets go.
          Don't forget to adjust parallax as switching from 245yds to 50yds will screw that up bigtime.
          Now you can see where your 50yd shots go with your 245yd zero.
          On the day of the competition, simply adjust your hold accordingly for the paintball.
          I like this idea.
          Regarding the bone stock rifle. Yes it is a very accurate rifle with this chamber. I got lucky, I got a great deal on it and went through it but it is bone stock.
          This idea is exactly what I was looking for.
          I have never done anything like this egg shoot before I am just looking for some input. No sense in inventing the wheel.
          Thanks guys!
          sigpicA well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

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          • #6
            ar15barrels
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 57175

            My best guess is that if you are spot-on at 245yds, you will hold the bottom edge of the paintball at 50yds to make a centered hit on the paintball.
            Randall Rausch

            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
            Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
            Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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            • #7
              russ69
              Calguns Addict
              • Nov 2009
              • 9348

              Originally posted by ar15barrels
              The paintball at 50yds is actually an easier target than the eggs at 245yds.

              Make a target with 5 eggs on it.
              Go set it up at 245yds.
              Make a paintball target and put it at 50yds.
              Get zeroed on the eggs.
              Then, shoot the paintball and observe where your bullets go.
              Don't forget to adjust parallax as switching from 245yds to 50yds will screw that up bigtime.
              Now you can see where your 50yd shots go with your 245yd zero.
              On the day of the competition, simply adjust your hold accordingly for the paintball.
              The only thing to add is that the 222 likes 52 grain flat base match bullets.
              sigpic

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              • #8
                Thorax
                Banned
                • Apr 2010
                • 915

                Maybe even 1/2 inch below the paintball.

                Remember Randall, it's a 222, not a 223.
                Tad less poop.
                The 223 was (if I remember correctly) the same case as a 222 magnum, or AI ?
                dayumm, has it been that long ago ?

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                • #9
                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 57175

                  Originally posted by Thorax
                  Maybe even 1/2 inch below the paintball.

                  Remember Randall, it's a 222, not a 223.
                  Tad less poop.
                  The 223 was (if I remember correctly) the same case as a 222 magnum, or AI ?
                  dayumm, has it been that long ago ?
                  Now you made me go run the calculation in JBM.
                  With a 245yd zero, shooting a 52gr SMK at 2800fps, you actually need to hold 1.7" under at 50yds.
                  With a 245yd zero, shooting a 40gr VMAX at 3300fps, you only need to hold 0.9" under at 50yds.

                  Left to right: The .222 Rem., .223, .222 Rem Mag., .20 tactical, .204 Ruger and the .222 Mag JDJ:

                  Last edited by ar15barrels; 10-07-2014, 6:20 PM.
                  Randall Rausch

                  AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                  Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                  Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                  Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                  Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                  • #10
                    viatioalfa
                    Junior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 2

                    The only way to know for sure is to put as many shots on paper at 300 and 50 in the amount of time allotted and see what happens.

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                    • #11
                      Wrangler John
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 1799

                      You should be able to do it. After all, at one time I could clean 7 of 10 "turkey eggs" (6" diameter steel silhouettes) at 200 meters with a 10" Contender and the 7mm TCU cartridge, with home made jacketed bullets, using factory iron sights, while shooting from the modified Creedmore position laying on my back. 200 meters = 218 yards, 2 feet. Of course my vision then was 20/15.

                      The ballistic tables are cool and scientific, but the best way to do it is shoot the distances with your competition load and work up a sight correction chart. That's the way I did it, but everybody has their own ideas that work too.

                      If you want to worry about barrel fouling, first shot from a cold fouled barrel, and stuff like that, you could investigate boron nitride coating your bullets, but for that you have to reload. Just how much it's worth to you to gain bragging rights is up to you. I always found the friendly competition and camaraderie with some really great people more valuable than winning. Heck, I usually donated the trophies back to the club. Win or loose it sounds like you'll have fun. Ah, to be young again.

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                      • #12
                        Rangem4
                        Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 407

                        Originally posted by ar15barrels
                        Now you made me go run the calculation in JBM.
                        With a 245yd zero, shooting a 52gr SMK at 2800fps, you actually need to hold 1.7" under at 50yds.
                        With a 245yd zero, shooting a 40gr VMAX at 3300fps, you only need to hold 0.9" under at 50yds.

                        Left to right: The .222 Rem., .223, .222 Rem Mag., .20 tactical, .204 Ruger and the .222 Mag JDJ:

                        You guys are the best!
                        This is a great way to begin.
                        This scientific stuff is much easier when someone else does the figuring. Look at all the money in ammo you are saving me.
                        sigpicA well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

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                        • #13
                          ddestruel
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 887

                          soften up the trigger or swap it out

                          I usually run 2lbs. except my 300 mag i set it up with a 2.5 lbs
                          NRA Life member, multi organization continued donor etc etc etc

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                          • #14
                            6mmintl
                            Veteran Member
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 4822

                            My suggestion would be front and rear bed action and recoil lug, relieve pressure bump on front of stock and along side of stock where it is touching (it does/it will).

                            Remove firing pin and disassembly and polish firing pin (drill/scotchbrite/chrome polish, reassembly and a couple of drops of light oil, clean inside bolt and bolt schroud.

                            Remove three coils off of ejector and clean/reassemble.

                            Pull trigger and clean with brake cleaner and adjust/light (few drops) of light oil, check function.

                            You will be surprised how the groups will shrink with this minimal home remedy if you have mechanical skills.

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                            • #15
                              dfletcher
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 14807

                              Originally posted by Rangem4
                              I do reload so the expense is mitigated somewhat.
                              In a shooting contest reloading for the 222 Remington should be considered cheating - otherwise, just flip open the MTM box, say "reloads" and take the prize ......
                              GOA Member & SAF Life Member

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