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  • kendog4570
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2008
    • 5180

    Early Weatherby Vanguard/Howa Rifle

    Does anyone have a Howa Dickson Golden Bear/early Weatherby Vanguard rifle in a magnum caliber? These are almost Sako copies. I have a 7 Mag that is missing a bolt, and have been unsuccessful finding one. It looks possible to fit a Sako L61R bolt, but need detailed pictures and dimensions of the bolt.

    Pulled the barrel from the Weatherby/Howa and compared to Sako. The bolt nose and barrel counter bore on the Vanguard are quite different from the Sako, while the rest of the bolt is very similar. Tenon threads are different too. The early Dickson Howa has the same thread as a new Howa 1500 (26m X 2.6) while the Sako is 26m X 1.6. Sakos have a flat breech similar to a push feed Win M70 or Savage M10, while the Howa has a Remington style counter bore.
    Does anyone here have one of these rifles in a magnum caliber, and would you be willing to send some detailed pictures of the bolt? It is very possible to fit a Sako bolt, which is available.

    Thanks
    Ken
    Last edited by kendog4570; 09-27-2014, 9:02 AM.
  • #2
    toby
    Banned
    • Jan 2010
    • 10576

    I don't have a magnum series but a 30-06, I can give you this if you've not already looked here. www.sakocollectors.com

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    • #3
      TurboChrisB
      Calguns Addict
      • Mar 2010
      • 5116

      I have a Smith & Wesson branded Howa 1500 30.06 from the late 70's, wish it could help. Good luck with this....

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      • #4
        kendog4570
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2008
        • 5180

        Originally posted by toby
        I don't have a magnum series but a 30-06, I can give you this if you've not already looked here. www.sakocollectors.com
        Can you post or send a picture of the bolt nose? Is your rifle a Sako, or early Howa?
        Thanks,
        Ken

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        • #5
          toby
          Banned
          • Jan 2010
          • 10576

          Originally posted by kendog4570
          Can you post or send a picture of the bolt nose? Is your rifle a Sako, or early Howa?
          Thanks,
          Ken
          It's a Dickson Golden Bear Howa, unfortunately I don't have here at the house. At one time I was going to have it re chambered to 300 Win mag and they told me they could not open up the bolt face to do so, it stayed an 06 and has not been fired for over 20 years.

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          • #6
            kendog4570
            Calguns Addict
            • Dec 2008
            • 5180

            Originally posted by toby
            It's a Dickson Golden Bear Howa, unfortunately I don't have here at the house. At one time I was going to have it re chambered to 300 Win mag and they told me they could not open up the bolt face to do so, it stayed an 06 and has not been fired for over 20 years.

            Thanks.
            If you ever have an opportunity to snap a few pictures it would be greatly appreciated.

            This project is a little bit of a pig-in-a-poke. Doing it for a friend and would like to NOT trash a new Sako bolt! You know,the "I cut it twice and it is STILL too short" syndrome!

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            • #7
              TMB 1
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2012
              • 7153

              Have you tried calling Sarco? http://www.e-sarcoinc.com/miscellaneousgunparts.aspx They have all kinds of parts. I see both Howa and Weatherby listed
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              • #8
                kendog4570
                Calguns Addict
                • Dec 2008
                • 5180

                Originally posted by TMB 1
                Have you tried calling Sarco? http://www.e-sarcoinc.com/miscellaneousgunparts.aspx They have all kinds of parts. I see both Howa and Weatherby listed

                I tried all the usual suspects, and a few unusual ones too.
                But I forgot about these guys.
                Thanks
                Last edited by kendog4570; 09-27-2014, 11:27 AM.

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                • #9
                  devster55
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 2095

                  I have a vanguard s1 7mm rem mag of that will help?
                  Good friends will come bail you out of jail. A best friend will be sitting next to you in the cell saying damn that was fun!

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                  • #10
                    kendog4570
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 5180

                    Originally posted by devster55
                    I have a vanguard s1 7mm rem mag of that will help?

                    Thanks. The S1 and S2 Vanguards are built on Howa 1500 actions. This Dickson/Howa action dates back to the mid/late sixties.

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