Remington resurrects the 260 Rem in their SPS

[Fjold]

Remington now lists the SPS model in one of the finest middle game cartridges ever made, the 260 Remington.

And they did it right using a 24", 1:8 twist barrel!

There's your new 1,000 yard rifle, that's perfect for California deer and hogs.

[JMP]

The Remington 700 SPS has always seemed to choose good barrel specs. The problem is they may not be optimal with many lead free bullets that will be required for CA hunting. For accuracy, I like the 139gr Scenar at 2,800fps and 1:8" twist. It's good that they are offering a solid 6.5mm. Perhaps, too many folks were buying Savages.

[ar15barrels]

Please tell me they will offer it in the SPS varmint.
THAT would be the easy way to start shooting longrange.
Federal already catalogs a 260 gold medal match load with 142smk's...

http://www.federalpremium.com/products/details/rifle.aspx?id=992

[CobraRed]

Perhaps, too many folks were buying Savages.

Not surprised.

[Fjold]

No, it's not offered yet in the Varmint model.

[ExtremeX]

No, it's not offered yet in the Varmint model.

That's unfortunate!

I've been eyeing the Savage 12LRP in 260 or 6.5 Creedmoor.

I would be very happy to get one in a Remington short action so I can use my existing chassis and accessories.

[Sutcliffe]

Just about a perfect caliber

It got such a late start it's not nearly as popular as it ought to be.

[russ69]

The Remington 700 SPS has always seemed to choose good barrel specs...

If it was 1950 I'd agree, they still don't offer a fast twist 223.

[toby]

If more manufactures chambered this round and did it in a Varmint style rifle or at least varmint weight barrels in a 1 in 8 twist rate it would sell in big numbers, problem is Marketing directors think differently then actual shooters/Hunters. Hmmmmm Ackley version?

[JMP]

If it was 1950 I'd agree, they still don't offer a fast twist 223.

The 1:12" is perfect for most of the intended uses of a .223 Remington for most consumers. It's very good for 50gr bullets and is good for basic 55gr factory like PMC. Those seeking a "high performance" .223 bolt action will have too specific preferences for a mass produced rifle. So, leaving it aftermarket is a good idea so one can specify twist, rifling, length, and chamber dimensions. You can't design a barrel that would satisfy everyone in a cartridge that shoots 40-90gr bullets. That's my opinion.

[RobG]

It got such a late start it's not nearly as popular as it ought to be.

Maybe not in hunting circles but, it is tops in the long range/tactical type game.

The 1:12" is perfect for most of the intended uses of a .223 Remington for most consumers. It's very good for 50gr bullets and is good for basic 55gr factory like PMC. Those seeking a "high performance" .223 bolt action will have too specific preferences for a mass produced rifle. So, leaving it aftermarket is a good idea so one can specify twist, rifling, length, and chamber dimensions. You can't design a barrel that would satisfy everyone in a cartridge that shoots 40-90gr bullets. That's my opinion.

No reason they couldn't offer a 1:8 twist. 1:12 is too slow for anything but short, light bullets. With a 1:8 and their notoriously long chambers, one could have an off the shelf gun to shoot 75+ grain bullets easily.

[vliberatore]

No reason they couldn't offer a 1:8 twist. 1:12 is too slow for anything but short, light bullets. With a 1:8 and their notoriously long chambers, one could have an off the shelf gun to shoot 75+ grain bullets easily.

Yes. But the point was that most people who purchase a .223 bolt action rifle are shooting short, light bullets.

[ar15barrels]

1:12 is too slow for anything but short, light bullets. With a 1:8 and their notoriously long chambers, one could have an off the shelf gun to shoot 75+ grain bullets easily.

1:12 actually works perfect for about 90% of the 223 ammo that the general public purchases.
This is because the VAST majority of 223 ammo sold has 55gr and lighter bullets.
Heavy bullet 223 ammo is a small percentage of all 223 ammo sold.

[2nd Shot]

(New) Remington logic:

Go through all the trouble of gobbling up 6.5-08 and renaming it the .260 Remington. Sell only in a 20 inch hunting rifle. Give up and put it on the shelf.

Watch as everybody rebarrels to .260 for LR shooting. Watch as everybody buys Savages in .260. Reluctantly reintroduces the model 700 in .260... As a hunting rifle. Repeat.

[5.56Geo]

(New) Remington logic:

Go through all the trouble of gobbling up 6.5-08 and renaming it the .260 Remington. Sell only in a 20 inch hunting rifle. Give up and put it on the shelf.

Watch as everybody rebarrels to .260 for LR shooting. Watch as everybody buys Savages in .260. Reluctantly reintroduces the model 700 in .260... As a hunting rifle. Repeat.

+1,000,000!

I can almost assure you that Remington has staff in their R&D department reading forums such as Calguns keeping their finger on the pulse as to what people are looking for in in a good rifle. The sad thing is they will read a thread like this one and discount it.

Could you imagine if Remington added a 24" heavy barrel .260Rem.