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  • SDBlaster
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 580

    r700 help/ advice

    I am getting a bolt action .308 and have decided to go with a Remington 700. I am debating between the tactical sps tactical aac or the 5r. Can someone help me out with the difference and it the barrel on the 5r is worth the price. I probably won't be shooting past 600yrds and this will be my first bolt action. Either way, I have money set aside for optics. Any thoughts? Thanks!
  • #2
    JMP
    Internet Warrior
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Feb 2012
    • 17056

    I'd definitely go with the 5r, unless you are planning to rebarrel. The 5r rifling is superior in every way to other groove patterns for most common cartridges. You'll find that it is a lot less sensitive to ammo and easier to shoot accurately as it doesn't have opposing lands and grooves like a 4 groove.

    Personally, for .308, I'd go with a Bartlein 5r 1:12" with a heavy contour all day, any day if I had the choice.

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    • #3
      TheExiled
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 2933

      5R is a better barrel and gun, Either one will get you to 600 yards easily. Do you need to spend that much to get started? Probably not IMO unless youve got the money

      If it were up to me and it was my first experience into long range shooting, I would save the money from the 5R and get one with a standard rifled barrel and buy more ammo to practice
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      • #4
        SDBlaster
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 580

        Is there any difference between the 2 other than stock and barrel?

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        • #5
          ExtremeX
          Calguns Addict
          • Sep 2010
          • 7160

          Originally posted by SDBlaster
          Is there any difference between the 2 other than stock and barrel?
          Twist Rate...
          SPS Tac is 1:12 20"
          AAC-SD is 1:10 threaded 20"
          5R is 1:11.25 24" stainless barrel and action

          Id say go with the 5R, especially if you like the stock. I really like the barrel and action but the stock wasn't to my liking, I find the palm swell a little big / uncomfortable so I would have changed out the HS Precision stock.

          That said, I went with the standard 20" SPS Tactical since I had a chassis already and with my own hand loads it shoots exceptional... In the accuracy department I really don't think I missed out on much except for the extra 4" of velocity and a nicer stainless steel action.
          Last edited by ExtremeX; 09-15-2014, 7:34 PM.
          ExtremeX

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          • #6
            ar15barrels
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 57117

            The barrel and the stock on the 5r are both superior.
            The SPS stocks are like packing material to ship a barrelled action in.
            You throw them away when you unwrap the gun and then get a good stock.
            The 5r comes with a good stock that you don't need to replace to get great accuracy.
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            • #7
              anothergunnut
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2006
              • 1819

              Have you considered a 700P? I believe they have the same trigger as the 5R as well as an upgraded stock. It seems to be a little nicer than SPS or AAC but not as expensive as the 5R.
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              • #8
                MongooseV8
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 4426

                Hands down the 5R. The barrel and HS Precision stock are easily worth the extra cost. I have 3-4 rifles in the HS Precision stock and I love them.

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                • #9
                  6mmintl
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 4822

                  I would recommend the std. 24/26" Remington heavy barrel if you are only interested in the shorter ranges (out to 600 yds.), they will get you out to 800 maybe 900 but accuracy will fall off. By the time you master longer range shooting, new trigger, bedding, firing pin/bolt/mag tuneups, and Handloading, you will be ready for a new custom barrel and action blueprinting.

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                  • #10
                    HK Dave
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 5737

                    Originally posted by ar15barrels
                    The barrel and the stock on the 5r are both superior.
                    The SPS stocks are like packing material to ship a barrelled action in.
                    You throw them away when you unwrap the gun and then get a good stock.
                    The 5r comes with a good stock that you don't need to replace to get great accuracy.
                    Wachu talkin bout Willis? I got $80 for mine on ebay.

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                    • #11
                      MongooseV8
                      Veteran Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 4426

                      Originally posted by HK Dave
                      Wachu talkin bout Willis? I got $80 for mine on ebay.
                      Hey just because you suckered some sucker on ebay to buy it, doesnt mean it is a good stock!

                      People buy all kinds of junk on ebay lol.

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                      • #12
                        HK Dave
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 5737

                        lol didn't sucker anyone... I listed exactly what I had and it bid that high I kid you not.

                        I do agree, it is a piece of junk... but to some its better than they got.

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                        • #13
                          ar15barrels
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 57117

                          Originally posted by anothergunnut
                          Have you considered a 700P? I believe they have the same trigger as the 5R as well as an upgraded stock. It seems to be a little nicer than SPS or AAC but not as expensive as the 5R.
                          The 700p actually comes with a 40x trigger which is very nicely adjustable.
                          The 5r comes with the X mark pro which should be replaced.
                          Both 700p and the 5r come with good HS precision stocks.
                          The 700P stock has a slightly different forend profile than the one on the 5r.
                          Randall Rausch

                          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                          Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                          Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                          • #14
                            Cowboy T
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 5725

                            A couple years ago, on Black Friday, Dick's Sporting Goods had 700 ADL's for $349 after the rebate, and the rebate was actually honored. Does Big 5 or any other similar store do something similar? You may find that such an ADL is surprisingly accurate as-is.
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                            • #15
                              JMP
                              Internet Warrior
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 17056

                              The only reason someone would not use a 5r barrel for most of the common calibers is if they have not owned one. A good quality 5r barrel is as good as you'll get. I am completely sold on that groove pattern.

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