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  • jeremyy
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 677

    Adding some weight for reduced recoil?

    I have a Mossberg atr 100 in 308 and the recoil starts to take it toll on me around 30 or so shots.

    I recall the first time I took it apart that is was pretty much hallow in side, I was also reading using fishing weights or airsoft BB's and top it off with some epoxy.

    I'm not to worried right now about weight with this rifle as I shoot prone or kneeing.

    Is there a method to a center of gravity to worry about? Is there a avg. weight to the stock alone?

    Any input would helpful. Ill add some photos shortly.

    thanks!
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    jeremyy
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    • Jan 2014
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    • #3
      devster55
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2012
      • 2095

      I would just have a muzzle brake put on it and keep it light
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      • #4
        Fjold
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        • Oct 2005
        • 22962

        The easiest thing to do is add small amount of small sinkers spread out front to back in the compartments there and hold them in with tape to try the balance and recoil reduction. If you need to, you can add some more under the recoil pad as the butt is probably hollow or filled with foam. You can drill a hole in the foam and add weight there if necessary to balance it out.
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        • #5
          bsumoba
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 4217

          the only thing I have heard of is a mercury recoil reducer, but am not sure how it works, where it is installed, or if its even compatible with your rifle.

          take a look at it.

          other than that, make the stock heavier is one way to help. how you add it is up to you
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          • #6
            blockfort
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 1183

            Get a softer pad on the butt of the stock. It makes a HUGE difference. Buy some foam if you want to test it, but trust me, it's huge.

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            • #7
              Divernhunter
              Calguns Addict
              • May 2010
              • 8753

              You can add weight that can be removed if you change your mind.
              See if you can get a Limbsaver direct replacement recoil pad for it. That will help quite a bit also.
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              • #8
                killshot44
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                • Nov 2009
                • 4072

                Given that the barrel is a thin profile, adding too much weight to the butt will move the balance point way rearward. Good for offhand but bad for prone.

                But the hollow-ish forearm looks like it would hold a decent amount of lead which would counteract the rear weighting.

                I suppose you could put the lead in and keep it in place with modeling clay to see if it does what you want. If it does, seal it with something more permanent.

                I found that #7 birdshot is good to use; being small they pack in densely, much more so than 00Buck or fishing sinkers.

                Of course, a brake or better recoil pad will also mitigate felt recoil.

                But any lightweight .308 is going to jump.

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                • #9
                  Dannicus
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                  • Jan 2011
                  • 2577

                  Originally posted by killshot44
                  Given that the barrel is a thin profile, adding too much weight to the butt will move the balance point way rearward. Good for offhand but bad for prone.[/U].
                  I've found the opposite to be true. More weight up front (but still balanced with the rear) makes a rifle more steady offhand. There's a sweet spot, tho. Too much weight and you'll struggle to hold it up, of course.

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                  • #10
                    ar15barrels
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                    • Jan 2006
                    • 57131

                    A muzzle brake will do a better job of reducing recoil in a lightweight gun than simply adding weight will.
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                    • #11
                      Nevertipsy
                      Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 470

                      I'd go with what Randall and a few others recommended, install a rifle brake. Its what I did on my 700 5R and it made a world of difference.
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                      • #12
                        hermosabeach
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                        • Feb 2009
                        • 19530

                        If you hunt, consider skipping a muzzle brake.

                        Too many people have messed up their hearing and either the shooter or those around the shooter do not have any or sufficient hearing protection.


                        With that said, a brake makes all the difference in the world for recoil and muzzle rise.





                        You can fill the voids with lead and then bed with Devcon to keep everything in place.

                        The butstock can also be weighted.




                        With the weight you lose the advantage of a light hunting rifle.

                        If for hunting, get a better recoil pad and or an extra pad. Slip on to go over the recoil pad or a pad for your shoulder. Then leave them at home for hunts as you will only fire a few rounds.
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                        • #13
                          dskit
                          Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 393

                          I had to fill in the blind box magazine area of a laminate savage stock when I used it for my single shot target action.

                          I mixed some BB's with 2 part epoxy. It filled up the void nicely, added a little weight and made a good surface for the bedding compound.
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                          • #14
                            Lucky Scott
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 2610

                            Muzzle brake, and get one of the gel pads that go on your shoulder.

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                            • #15
                              Arnelcheeze
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1450

                              if you want to add weight go get a nice wood stock.

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