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  • mofugly13
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 885

    Cooloing barrel between groups-How cool is cool

    When working up loads, it is essential that you let the barrel cool down between groups. How much must it cool down? For consistency's sake, it seems that you should let it cool to ambient temperature between every string. But that could mean a lot of time waiting between strings. Typically, between 5 shot strings, I'll walk the 100 yards to the target and back, or shoot another gun for a while. But sometimes I am at the range for a couple hours just trying to get 50 rounds down range, and even then, the barrel is not cooled to ambient between strings. I'll ususally go ahead and shoot again when the barrel has cooled to 'slightly warm'. What are your thoughts on the matter.

    FWIW, I don't shoot precision rifles, I shoot sporter contour hunting rifles.
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    Vu 308
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2007
    • 2565

    Slightly warm is fine.
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    • #3
      duckman1
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      • Aug 2009
      • 3737

      Unless you are seeing the groups starting to open up shooting it warm should be fine.

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      • #4
        Exodus343
        Veteran Member
        • Jun 2012
        • 4735

        1-2 minutes per shot is what I've been doing, gives me time to let the barrel cool while I'm going over my body alignment, npoa, breathing, loading, etc
        Then again that's precision shooting on prone with bipod. YMMV
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        • #5
          MongooseV8
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 4426

          Many shooters will shoot hot to record groups.

          In a match you dont always have time to let it cool down. And that squirrel sprinting across the field wont wait for my barrel to cool either. I usually shoot them til they are too hot to touch then I switch rifles.

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          • #6
            jtake
            Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 367

            It also depends on the nature of your barrel. Pencil thin barrels will begin to exhibit accuracy deterioration sooner than bull barrels. A big beefy bull barrel will allow longer shot strings before showing accuracy deterioration signs than pencil barrels.

            So hunters who might only shoot 2 consecutive shots use thinner, lighter barrels to manage weight, while bench shooters shooting longer strings use heavier match barrels as weight is not a limiting factor.

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            • #7
              E92335i
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 2937

              Yup slightly warm is fine. I tend to shoot 3 shot or 5 shot groups then take a rest for like 5 minutes.

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              • #8
                HK Dave
                Calguns Addict
                • Oct 2008
                • 5737

                Wow... i guess it's bad when I shoot 100 rounds in under 5 minutes... I figured the smoke coming off my barrel was normal. :P

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                • #9
                  LynnJr
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 7958

                  Once your barrel reaches 140 degrees your accuracy suffers.You can buy a thermal pad that sticks on the barrel that tells you what temperature your barrel is at.
                  I have cooled my barrels with ice cubes,rags soaked in ice water and CO2 run through the bore.
                  The real serious Varmint Hunters sleeve there barrel then pump alcohol through the sleeve with a pump powered by a solar cell.
                  Here is a link showing some water cooled varmint rifles.You can see the hoses and regulators used to keep them cool.
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                  • #10
                    toby
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 10576

                    Lots of cold water if needed. I have never been in that situation though.

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                    • #11
                      sjb269
                      Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 297

                      I use a cool damp towel myself. Generally, if I can't reach up and hold my barrel for a few seconds…it's hotter than I like. I have cooked it pretty good before, but I try to keep that to a minimum.

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                      • #12
                        gunboat
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 3288

                        douglas - from cle ulum
                        of course you would not worry about an overheated barrel,
                        yours are naturally water cooled

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                        • #13
                          ar15barrels
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                          • Jan 2006
                          • 57143

                          Originally posted by Douglas Munro
                          How will shooting a hot rifle hurt it / your groups?
                          It's very common for skinny factory barrels to bend with heat as they are not straight from the factory.
                          The more the barrel heats up, the more it bends.
                          This shows up on target as a wandering point of impact.
                          In a rifle with this condition, the zero is dependent on the temperature of the barrel.
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                          • #14
                            Rodell
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                            • Jul 2013
                            • 557

                            When doing load development for a hunting rifle I wait two minutes between shots to keep an even temperature. On my varmint rifles I don't have to wait quite so long.

                            If your barrel is smoking hot you are probably doing a number on the throat.

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                            • #15
                              russ69
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                              • Nov 2009
                              • 9348

                              Too hot to touch is too hot.
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