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  • bsumoba
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 4217

    BAT not on CA's approved DOJ list...what next?

    So I went to go DROS my BAT model M action to find out that BAT is not on CA's list of approved firearms manufactures, so their name is not even in the system.

    I called BAT and it seemed that they were not willing to help, but I could be wrong. My FFL is going to help follow up on this to get them on the approved list.

    Anyone have any ideas of how to "help" BAT get on the approved list? I find it hard to believe I am the first person to run into this issue.
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    rromeo
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2009
    • 6981

    There is no approved list of rifle manufacturers. There is only a list of banned rifles.
    Never initiate force against another. That should be the underlying principle of your life. But should someone do violence to you, retaliate without hesitation, without reservation, without quarter, until you are sure that he will never wish to harm - or never be capable of harming - you or yours again.

    - from THE SECOND BOOK OF KYFHO
    (Revised Eastern Sect Edition)

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    • #3
      aal780555
      Junior Member
      • May 2013
      • 62

      Tell them to put "USA" in the manufacturer area in DROS. This is more like the FFL not knowing what they are doing.

      There's no approved list of manufacture for rifles in CA.

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      • #4
        bwiese
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Oct 2005
        • 27621

        Please let CGF know via Hotline website if a (legally configured, not banned by name) rifle sale is blocked simply because of a DROS system entry limitation.

        Yes, USA should be enterable in mfg field (and perhaps notations elsewhere).

        There is no approval required for long gun sales [other than being fundamentally legal vis a vis configured features/make/model etc.]. A data entry technical issue cannot block sale of said rifle.

        If it does, time to litigate.

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        • #5
          bsumoba
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 4217

          Originally posted by rromeo
          There is no approved list of rifle manufacturers. There is only a list of banned rifles.
          So when my FFL searches for BAT in the DROS system, they still dont see that manufacture in the system...so what would they choose? my FFL seems to think that each firearms mfg was suppose to fill something out in order for their firearms to be legal to sell in CA...again, could be wrong.

          all part of the plan to make owning firearms that much harder i guess?

          Originally posted by aal780555
          Tell them to put "USA" in the manufacturer area in DROS. This is more like the FFL not knowing what they are doing.

          There's no approved list of manufacture for rifles in CA.
          understand...but my FFL is stating that "USA" is technically not the manufacture.


          They are going to call DOJ in the AM, to see if they can straighten it out. weird though...my heart sank and killed my mood today

          so close, yet so far.....
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          • #6
            Condorguns
            Still lost in the desert
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Dec 2007
            • 3302

            As noted above, the FFL will use the made in USA trick. When he is done printing your DROS he needs to go to the report a issue section on his DROS main screen. Submit the issue report saying "insert manufacturer" is not listed on the long gun drop down menu.
            Most of us FFL'S have had to do this numerous times for different manufacturers. I don't think DOJ had ANY idea how many long gun manufacturer there are.
            You, you, and you: Panic. The rest of you, come with me.
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            • #7
              bsumoba
              Veteran Member
              • Sep 2012
              • 4217

              Originally posted by Condorguns
              As noted above, the FFL will use the made in USA trick. When he is done printing your DROS he needs to go to the report a issue section on his DROS main screen. Submit the issue report saying "insert manufacturer" is not listed on the long gun drop down menu.
              Most of us FFL'S have had to do this numerous times for different manufacturers. I don't think DOJ had ANY idea how many long gun manufacturer there are.
              i think this might be the first time for them so im not surprised if they are being cautious
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              • #8
                phish
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2006
                • 3089

                You'll get things straightened out eventually.

                Now for the real questions: action configuration, stock and caliber selection? BAT doesn't play around since they use 17-4 for their stainless actions.

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                • #9
                  Condorguns
                  Still lost in the desert
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 3302

                  The new system has been a learning experience for both DOJ And FFL'S alike. Hope you get your baby home soon.
                  You, you, and you: Panic. The rest of you, come with me.
                  Incoming fire has the right of way.

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                  • #10
                    bsumoba
                    Veteran Member
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 4217

                    Originally posted by phish
                    You'll get things straightened out eventually.

                    Now for the real questions: action configuration, stock and caliber selection? BAT doesn't play around since they use 17-4 for their stainless actions.
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                    * PR&T Low Boy Stock in Onyx Black Laminate

                    Scope TBD
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                    • #11
                      phish
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 3089

                      BAT not on CA's approved DOJ list...what next?

                      Originally posted by bsumoba



                      Scope TBD

                      Barska

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                      • #12
                        bsumoba
                        Veteran Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 4217

                        Originally posted by phish
                        Barska
                        of course not....NcStar baby!

                        In defense of Barska, I have their 20-60x spotting scope for range use and it works very well for me.

                        Im hoping to "find" the cash for the 2014 model NF Competition, but might settle for the 2013 model. We'll see.

                        I really like the Vortex Razor GenII in MOA, but the reticle is not fine enough for 1000 yard precision work IMO, but might be more versatile if I ever decide to use the setup for a more tactical application if F-open stops becoming appealing to me (although, I cant see this happening, at least not yet )
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                        • #13
                          X-NewYawker
                          In Memoriam
                          • May 2008
                          • 5993

                          Nightforce.

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                          • #14
                            Dattebayo
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 2344

                            There is no USA selection in the new DROS system. I have checked as ATI isn't on there either. There is though an America selection though which is what I would use for manufacture.

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                            • #15
                              bsumoba
                              Veteran Member
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 4217

                              Issue resolved. I am heading over to my FFL after work to DROS it.

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