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  • #31
    LynnJr
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2013
    • 7956

    If you already reload its really hard to beat a 6BR or a 22BR.
    The brass lasts 25 firings or more.
    A jug of powder loads 1800 rounds +.
    Accuracy beyond all the other cartridges already listed.
    Low recoil.
    Good to 1000 yards with the heavier bullets.
    If your after splat factor velocity is the key.
    If you want to increase your hit ratio accuracy is the key.
    Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
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    URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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    • #32
      advocatusdiaboli
      Calguns Addict
      • Sep 2009
      • 5521

      Originally posted by LynnJr
      If you already reload its really hard to beat a 6BR or a 22BR.
      The brass lasts 25 firings or more.
      A jug of powder loads 1800 rounds +.
      Accuracy beyond all the other cartridges already listed.
      Low recoil.
      Good to 1000 yards with the heavier bullets.
      If your after splat factor velocity is the key.
      If you want to increase your hit ratio accuracy is the key.
      Interesting: I had never really come across 6mm Bench Rest before as it's not used in hunting in general. Nice bullet BC, Reloadable inexpensively (relatively). Hmmm. I'll still start with 223 since that is just easy and look at the Savage rifles, but I'll look into short-action rifles I can convert for BR calibers if I cannot find one stock as a second one for farther shots.
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      • #33
        3006
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 939

        I really like my 22-250 load to 3600 feet per second with a 55 gran SX
        some day I will have to work up a lead free load.

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        • #34
          Army
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 3915

          I have a the big 32X Weaver on the BVSS, and an old Burris 6-24X on the LRPV.
          "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself...A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague."......Cicero

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          • #35
            advocatusdiaboli
            Calguns Addict
            • Sep 2009
            • 5521

            Originally posted by toby
            Read my SIG line then look at this.
            http://www.longrangehunting.com/foru...m-06-a-126917/
            It's a sweet long-range rifle, but not something I'd shoot all day for varmints or for short- to medium-range shooting.
            I'll keep that in mind when I decide to invest in a long range target rifle, but it looks like I'll go .223 first, then something longer range.
            Last edited by advocatusdiaboli; 05-02-2014, 4:52 PM.
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            • #36
              toby
              Banned
              • Jan 2010
              • 10576

              When you speak of Varmints what species are you hunting? Squirrels, Coyotes, Foxes, Bob cats?
              Only the Squirrels will give you all day shooting the others will be few and sometimes far between. That 6mm-06 is just a hyped up 243 really it's on par with the Weatherby 240. Anyway good luck with your varmint shoot's it's a great way to spend time outdoors.

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              • #37
                advocatusdiaboli
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                • Sep 2009
                • 5521

                Originally posted by toby
                When you speak of Varmints what species are you hunting? Squirrels, Coyotes, Foxes, Bob cats?
                Only the Squirrels will give you all day shooting the others will be few and sometimes far between. That 6mm-06 is just a hyped up 243 really it's on par with the Weatherby 240. Anyway good luck with your varmint shoot's it's a great way to spend time outdoors.
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                • #38
                  advocatusdiaboli
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                  • Sep 2009
                  • 5521

                  Originally posted by toby
                  Like I said, each has his own definition. That's a made-up world with a made-up definition.

                  Chuck Hawks: "The typical varmint rifle is a specialized type of small caliber, long range hunting rifle. Great killing power is not required because the targets are usually rodents ranging in size from ground squirrels and prairie dogs to marmots (woodchucks or ground hogs), but accuracy and flat trajectory are at a premium."

                  Rifle shooter distiguishes Predators from Varmints: http://www.rifleshootermag.com/2014/...redator-rifle/

                  but the Wikipedia defines varmints as comprising vermin (the rodents) and predators together. So, who knows?

                  I think rodent shooting and predator shooting generally use different rifles and calibers at different ranges. If I was going after predators, which I am not as I don't have any place to shoot them, a larger than .22 bullet with a better BC would be in order—such as your rifle—but it would burn more powder and recoil more and heat up faster and burn barrels faster in general. Weatherby is out of my target price range though given I need to buy a good scope as well.
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                  • #39
                    toby
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 10576

                    Ok, just letten ya know! We as Varmint hunters rank them all as Varmints and Chuck Hawks, Meh x3

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                    • #40
                      advocatusdiaboli
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 5521

                      Originally posted by toby
                      Ok, just letten ya know! We as Varmint hunters rank them all as Varmints and Chuck Hawks, Meh x3
                      Okay, thanks for clearing that up. Chuck H. came up in the first few hits when I first Googled varmint rifles so that's how I got on that track. Anyway, I'll dart with a .223 and we'll see what I can do after that, funds permitting. Is your Weatherby an a short-action or long-action rifle?
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                      • #41
                        Kit1885
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 51

                        The 22-250 is the 22 of choice for marksmen and reloaders,
                        22 bullets are pretty cheap and available,
                        and a well placed 55gr @ 3500 fps will take down just about anything in a pinch
                        mine shoots a dime at 100 yds if I do my part

                        Kitt

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                        • #42
                          advocatusdiaboli
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 5521

                          hmmm. so maybe I get a .223 and a 22-250 after that and then something bigger. LOL. My wife is going to be displeased, but that's why I bought a big gun safe in the beginning as I knew there is no such ting as too many pistols, rifles, or shotguns.
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                          • #43
                            ElvenSoul
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                            • Apr 2008
                            • 17431

                            Mossberg MVP Predator, Varmit, or Flex would work.
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                            • #44
                              Beendare
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 598

                              I've shot the 22 250, 17, .223, and the .204

                              I just bought a Savage LH model 10 in .223. If I was really going for max accuracy I would have got the .204, but since I can drill just about anything as far as i can see it with the .223 and I can use the same ammo in my super accurate AR-15- the .223is no brainer.

                              I've seen first hand many times the effectiveness of those little 50gr Fiocchi Vmax bullets- on coyotes- devastating.

                              ― Edwin Louis Cole
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                              • #45
                                advocatusdiaboli
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 5521

                                Originally posted by Beendare
                                I've shot the 22 250, 17, .223, and the .204

                                I just bought a Savage LH model 10 in .223. If I was really going for max accuracy I would have got the .204, but since I can drill just about anything as far as i can see it with the .223 and I can use the same ammo in my super accurate AR-15- the .223is no brainer.

                                I've seen first hand many times the effectiveness of those little 50gr Fiocchi Vmax bullets- on coyotes- devastating.
                                Yep. I am going to start with a good solid bolt .223 and decide next where to go after I feel I am solid with it. Maybe make it a .223 AI at some point. Maybe some thing with more powder like a 22-250 or more bullet like a 6.5mm (though a 7mm-08 is already on my list hunting rifles so maybe not.
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