16" 45/70 leveraction ***update post 37****

[GillaFunk]

Funny....that's just what I am slowly starting to look for.....

[Kappy]

Shot one a while back, I think. At least it was a short 45/70 lever action.

Shot well. 2moa or less at 100yds.


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[zoid52]

the recoil from 45/70's can break your shoulder.

[socal147]

Not worried about recoil? Haven't shot much .45/70 have you?

I shoot 45/70 - 200 plus in a sitting using a CSA Highwall. Steel butt plate.
Never had an issue with recoil or bruising.

I am either one tough dude or more likely I reload light, 1250 fps 350grain bullet.

Same goes with my 500 magnum varmint pistol. Reload to your particular liking.

[javithewrench]

16" 45/70 leveraction

Finally someone that understands 45/70 is not a lot of recoil that "can break your shoulder" really?? I also enjoy shooting my 500 mag and my 460 smith. Time for some of you guys to man up, guys have been shooting 45/70 with a steel butt plate for over 140 years

[dozer wright]

My brother is very knowledgable on the subject just sent him a message. Maybe he will chime in.

[J.R.W.]

Iam dozers brother havent shot anything as short as a 16 ". figure 2 inches of barrel length at 100 isnt gona change bullet drop by much . if u run a magnum primer it would take up any velocity lost by the 2 inch cut

[H2O MAN]

not worried about recoil, just accuracy and velocities. I only plan to shoot 100-150 yards max. thanx

Good thread. I think that you will be fine at your planned maximum range, and you can always play with the loads until you fine one the rifle likes.
When compared to a Guide gun, I am curious to know how a 2.5" barrel reduction effects the performance of commercial loads and the general feel/balance of the rifle.

[44fred]

350gr @ 1250fps out of a 30"+ barrel that weighs 10lbs or more is not even in the same ballpark as 525gr @ 1650fps from a 18.5" 6.5lb rifle.
I'm just sayin'.

[javithewrench]

16" 45/70 leveraction

The 1886 has an octagon barrel and should weight a bit more than 6.5lbs I can shoot my marlin guide gun with 18.5 barrel and don't mind the recoil. I appreciate all the feedback and will post pics once I get it back from turnbull mfg. here it is before I sent it off

[44fred]

I have the same guide gun. Believe it when I tell you about the 525gr @ 1650fps. If you can handle 200 of the mentioned rounds out of that guide gun, from the bench, in one afternoon, my hat goes off to you. I'm no stranger to recoil either but this is flat out abuse.

[javithewrench]

I usually shoot 350gr and probably shoot 40-60 rounds when I take it to the range

[socal147]

I agree. The bigger bullets at higher velocities would be nasty but that is one of my reasons for reloading. I don't need a 500 grainier at 1650 fps to kill a deer or such. My load will do in just about any paper or swinging steel threat. For animals with claws and attitudes I can always work up a sufficient load.

[BluNorthern]

the recoil from 45/70's can break your shoulder.

[44fred]

I agree. The bigger bullets at higher velocities would be nasty but that is one of my reasons for reloading. I don't need a 500 grainier at 1650 fps to kill a deer or such. My load will do in just about any paper or swinging steel threat. For animals with claws and attitudes I can always work up a sufficient load.

Agree 100%! This is why I reload.
All I was trying to do was clear up the misconception of recoil. The 45/70, along with other cartridges can be loaded from mild to wild. Some you can shoot all day long, others well, you won't want to.
I've toned things down a bit since I've learned about penetration and the 45/70.
Faster does not equal more penetration up to a point.