Cleaning Rod Help?

[Kappy]

I purchased a target Winchester Model 70 in .308 a few weeks back. Unfortunately, I've run into a small problem.

I had it shooting an awesome set of groups on its first week out. Yesterday, I cleaned the rifle... then shot 5 really crappy groups (1"+ on each). At the end, cleaning again, I found that there was an obstruction in the barrel. One of the guys noticed that there was a cut in the nylon on my Dewey rod. Apparently a piece of the rod had been cut off and stuck somewhere in the barrel. We're assuming that the nylon was causing a problem with accuracy.

OK... so one problem solved... the next problem is that the comb on the rifle comes up too high to get a rod in without bumping the comb. This forces the rod to bend.

I could just go with a boresnake, but I think serious shooters would all agree that there is more to cleaning than that.

Any info is welcome.

[Kappy]

Oh... I tried finding something like a Delrin rod, but the closest they get to .308 is .312"... and the next smaller is .25", so I'm guessing that won't work?

I know you aren't supposed to clean from the muzzle-end, but... is it possible that this is my only option?

[robnletti]

Otis sells cleaning kits with pull-through cables. I have one and they work very well.

http://www.amazon.com/Otis-All-Caliber-Rifle-Cleaning-System/dp/B000E5CQV2/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1395718857&sr=8-8&keywords=otis+cleaning+kit

I also have a carbon-fiber cleaning rod that I use with a bore guide for cleaning my rifles that works fine for me.

http://www.amazon.com/Gunslick-1-Piece-36-Inch-Cleaning-Calibers/dp/B00162SBBQ/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1395719069&sr=8-12&keywords=carbon+fiber+cleaning+rod

Hope this helps.

[Kappy]

I have a bore guide. I guess I could just use a longer rod with it?


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[bsumoba]

would it be too much of a hassle to pull the action off the stock so you can use a normal rod?

[faris1984]

+1 Otis.

[NaturalDefense]

Is there any way you can stick the rod in, without any attachments, through the front of the bore with a small cloth (as to not harm to rifling or crown), and then screw the brushes on the rod in the chamber? Just pull and basically you are still cleaning in a forward only motion, but it can get really frustrating if you haveto do it alot.

[lewdogg21]

Go with a longer rod and use your bore guide. I have an otis and would prefer a bore guide and rod.

[-hanko]

Go with a longer rod and use your bore guide. I have an otis and would prefer a bore guide and rod.

Start with a bore guide...Brownells has 'em.

I still like the nylon-coated Dewey rods...used 4 or 5 for years, have yet to scrape the coating.

I'd think the rod was really off-axis with the bore to cut the coating.

If you're cleaning from the front end, muzzle guide.

[the86d]

I was expecting this:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x28qro_jenna-jameson-candle-stick-man-show_people

[Vu 308]

Dewey and quality bore guide.

[hks95134]

I purchased a target Winchester Model 70 in .308 a few weeks back. Unfortunately, I've run into a small problem.

I had it shooting an awesome set of groups on its first week out. Yesterday, I cleaned the rifle... then shot 5 really crappy groups (1"+ on each). At the end, cleaning again, I found that there was an obstruction in the barrel. One of the guys noticed that there was a cut in the nylon on my Dewey rod. Apparently a piece of the rod had been cut off and stuck somewhere in the barrel. We're assuming that the nylon was causing a problem with accuracy.

OK... so one problem solved... the next problem is that the comb on the rifle comes up too high to get a rod in without bumping the comb. This forces the rod to bend.

I could just go with a boresnake, but I think serious shooters would all agree that there is more to cleaning than that.

Any info is welcome.

You're supposed to take the bolt off first, so you can clean from the breach end. The reason that you clean from the breach end is so as not to mar the muzzle end, which could then affect the flight of your bullet.

Odds are that you have too much oil and cleaner in your bore, and that it throwing off your groups. The bore should be clean and dry when you go to shoot.

Have you never shot or cleaned a rifle before?

[hks95134]

Oh... I tried finding something like a Delrin rod, but the closest they get to .308 is .312"... and the next smaller is .25", so I'm guessing that won't work?

I know you aren't supposed to clean from the muzzle-end, but... is it possible that this is my only option?

A smaller rod with a bigger brush on it works fine. It is the brush and the cloth that does the work, not the rod.

[JMP]

Use a finer rod made of plastic or a material much softer than the barrel for a gentle clean with cotton. Don't jam or yank big abrasive bore brushes through there unless you want to shorten the life of your barrel. It doesn't need to be cleaned all that often.

[jeffafa]

http://www.amazon.com/Tipton-Cleaning-Caliber-40-Inch-1-Piece/dp/B0009JO59O/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1395782396&sr=8-3&keywords=tipton+cleaning+rods