Bolt action magazine question?

[Merc1138]

Um....no. If you go down and purchase a new bolt action rifle in say .308 and add a DBM to the rifle, you can't go out and purchase 20 round mags for it someplace and call it legal.

I don't get what's so hard to understand about this.

If you go down and purchase a new bolt action rifle in say .308 and add a DBM to the rifle, you can take your legally acquired 20 round mags for it, attach them, and it's completely legal.

As it has already been stated, getting the mags is the problem. Using the mags is completely legal. Getting the magazines(which is difficult/impossible for most) is not the same as using the magazines(which is sometimes a problem for semi auto centerfire rifles depending on the configuration, assuming it's not a RAW).

There is no limit for magazine capacity in a manually operated(non-semi auto) rifle, at all. There is a limit on magazine capacity for sales(and manufacture, import, etc.)that prevents you from going to the store and buying a >10 round mag.

If you can legally get the mag, you can use the mag

[ar15barrels]

On a bolt action rifle with detachable magazine, is there a mag limit?
Just wanted to know, because it's not a semi I don't think the limit applies? (But does it?)

Um....no. If you go down and purchase a new bolt action rifle in say .308 and add a DBM to the rifle,
you can't go out and purchase 20 round mags for it someplace and call it legal.

He asked if he could USE large capacity magazines in a bolt action.
He did not ask if he could PURCHASE large capacity magazines.
Different laws govern each of those.
All the laws need to be followed.

[Hairball]

No, he asked if there is a mag limit on magazines for bolt action rifles and in general, yes it is 10 rounds.

[ar15barrels]

he asked if there is a mag limit on magazines for bolt action rifles

Legally possessed large capacity magazines can be used in any bolt action rifle that they will fit in.

Please post the PC stating otherwise.

[Merc1138]

No, he asked if there is a mag limit on magazines for bolt action rifles and in general, yes it is 10 rounds.

There is no such limit. Stop trying to spread your FUD. As ar15barrels asked, post the PC backing your silly claim.

edit: BTW, I'll even post the PC that specifies semi auto.

30515. (a) Notwithstanding Section 30510, "assault weapon" also
means any of the following:

(2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine
with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

[Hairball]

As I said before, if you have pre-ban high cap mags then yes but you can't acquire anything new and say its legal because it is being used in a bolt action rifle. As a CA resident can not legally purchase high cap mags in this state or any other and bring them in to CA that solves most of the high cap mag issues for many. As an example, I have a m468 with several 30 round magazines that are kept out of state. Now I go down and buy a 700P in 6.8, put a DBM on it, can I now use my 30 round 6.8 mags that i purchased in another state legally, no I can't because these mags are purchased after the high cap mag law in Ca so when I came here in the military the mags stayed in another state not to mention 6.8 was not even around back when the ban started.

[Merc1138]

As I said before, if you have pre-ban high cap mags then yes but you can't acquire anything new and say its legal because it is being used in a bolt action rifle. As a CA resident can not legally purchase high cap mags in this state or any other and bring them in to CA that solves most of the high cap mag issues for many. As an example, I have a m468 with several 30 round magazines that are kept out of state. Now I go down and buy a 700P in 6.8, put a DBM on it, can I now use my 30 round 6.8 mags that i purchased in another state legally, no I can't because these mags are purchased after the high cap mag law in Ca so when I came here in the military the mags stayed in another state not to mention 6.8 was not even around back when the ban started.

No one ever said anything about acquiring mags being legal because it's in a bolt action rifle. Stop confusing the magazine and AW laws. BTW, there are exemptions in the penal code that allow some people to buy(rather, allow retailers to sell) large capacity magazines. That means if you were to legally acquire a 30 round 6.8 magazine, you could stick it in your 700P.

Post less. Read more. Stop spreading disinformation.

[ar15barrels]

you can't acquire anything new and say its legal because it is being used in a bolt action rifle.

The OP never asked about ACQUISITION of large capacity magazines.
He only asked about their USE in bolt action rifles.

Reference the first post:

On a bolt action rifle with detachable magazine, is there a mag limit?
Just wanted to know, because it's not a semi I don't think the limit applies? (But does it?)

[Hairball]

I am not spreading bad information. I know all about "some laws" that allow retailers to sell high capacity mags to some people, I also retired from San Diego Sheriffs department and we did it all the time. The limit on high cap magazine is 10 rounds for the average person regardless of what you may think. Even law enforcement is not exempt from magazine laws if you get down and actually read the PC. When I was LE, I could not legally go down and purchase 30 round AR mags because I did not use an AR in my "routine duties" and was not issued one. Could I still go into any LGS, show them a badge and ID and purchase them, sure I could as they don't care but if you want to get technical, half of LE that purchase these have no more right than the average citizen in doing so. I don't see why you guys are getting all bent over the OP question. He asked "On a bolt action rifle with detachable magazine, is there a mag limit?" The routine answer for this question should be yes as those that fall under the pre-ban are much less in number. If you don't have pre-ban high cap mags then you fall under the high cap mag rule for almost all firearms (except .22 or lever action with fixed tube). So what is a high capacity mag...ie illegal in CA

PC 12020(c)(2)
A large capacity magazine means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds

[Hairball]

AR, are you having a little too much to drink, where in his post does the OP ask if he can use them. He only asks if there is a mag limit, he says nothing about what he can and cant use

[ar15barrels]

where in his post does the OP ask if he can use them. He only asks if there is a mag limit, he says nothing about what he can and cant use

There is no specific limit on bolt action magazine capacity which is what the OP was asking about.

There is only a limit on what capacity magazines can currently be sold within the state.
The OP never asked about purchasing of magazines.

[Merc1138]

I am not spreading bad information. I know all about "some laws" that allow retailers to sell high capacity mags to some people, I also retired from San Diego Sheriffs department and we did it all the time. The limit on high cap magazine is 10 rounds for the average person regardless of what you may think. Even law enforcement is not exempt from magazine laws if you get down and actually read the PC. When I was LE, I could not legally go down and purchase 30 round AR mags because I did not use an AR in my "routine duties" and was not issued one. Could I still go into any LGS, show them a badge and ID and purchase them, sure I could as they don't care but if you want to get technical, half of LE that purchase these have no more right than the average citizen in doing so. I don't see why you guys are getting all bent over the OP question. He asked "On a bolt action rifle with detachable magazine, is there a mag limit?" The routine answer for this question should be yes as those that fall under the pre-ban are much less in number. If you don't have pre-ban high cap mags then you fall under the high cap mag rule for almost all firearms (except .22 or lever action with fixed tube). So what is a high capacity mag...ie illegal in CA

PC 12020(c)(2)
A large capacity magazine means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds

OMG, why do you continue?

The routine answer for the OPs question, as long as the person answering has any idea wtf they're talking about would be NO. Quote the PC preventing anyone from sticking a 30 round magazine in their bolt action rifle, or just stop already. Assault weapon laws, and magazine capacity laws are not the same thing. Even that 12020(c)(2) you just posted has nothing to do with using the magazine. Possession of large capacity magazines is legal. Use of large capacity magazines is legal depending on the firearm and it's configuration.

If you still cannot get it through your head that the AW laws and large capacity magazine laws are two separate things, just go back to whatever brady FUD site you normally browse. That way the rest of us law abiding gun owners in CA aren't at risk of being confused by your lies and nonsense.

"Why is this guy getting so worked up over this?"

If that thought is running through your head, it's because with as crappy our laws already are, we do not need people like you BS'ng gun owners into following non-existent restrictions, screwing themselves more than the state already does. There is no limit on magazine capacity for bolt action rifles.

[ar15barrels]

The OP clarified his intent to me via PM:

Can you please clarify the intent of your question in the bolt action magazines thread?

We have a good debate going as to whether your intent was to find out if there is a limit of capacity based on the type of action of the rifle, or if you were looking to purchase large capacity magazines under the auspices of them being meant for a bolt action rifle.

I got to play with a mossberg MVP today and it accepts AR15 stanag mags. Wondering the legality of having 20/30 rounders on em'

[Fjold]

AR, are you having a little too much to drink, where in his post does the OP ask if he can use them. He only asks if there is a mag limit, he says nothing about what he can and cant use

There is no mag limit.

If you already possess high capacity magazines you can put them on any bolt action rifle that you legally own.

[rromeo]

Two different things going on here, and so many people do not know how to look at things separately.

1. There is a law that prevents the general public in California from buying magazines over 10 rounds.

2. There is no law that prevents the general public in California from using a magazine over 10 rounds in a bolt action rifle.

If I bought a 20 round M14 magazine in California in 1993, I can continue to possess that magazine in California. If in 2013, I bought a non-semiautomatic rifle, I can modify that rifle to use the magazine I own, as long as the magazine still works as originally designed in the original gun.