SAVAGE GUYS.... Need help with my model 10!

[jeff1776]

Just bought this savage model 10 chambered in 22-250 sitting in a choate ultimate sniper stock.....


I couldn't be happier with it. Here's a 5 round group at 100yds....


It does have a problem cycling rounds though. By that I mean, the bolt does not alway pick up the next round and chamber it. The magazine seems to long for the 22-250 rounds. If you load 4 rounds into it, they seem to slip backward and by the time you get to the forth (sometimes 3rd) round they are back to far for the bolt to grab them. Here's the best pic I could get of the rounds in the magazine....


Any ideas???????????????

[LovingTheYear1911]

It may be an issue with the stock. I used to have a choate on mine and the mag was too loose in the stock. I had to use cloth to stuff ut in the stock. The mag wasnt properly seated. I bet its your stock.

[jp1911]

I agree with Bernard check the stock. with mag seated see if you have any movement up or down. It should be solid or very little movement.

Are you cycling the bolt slow or fast. I have found with mine going slow can cause this problem. I'm not talking about super fast, just a normal rate. To slow can cause it to drag the next round.

[jeff1776]

It may be an issue with the stock. I used to have a choate on mine and the mag was too loose in the stock. I had to use cloth to stuff ut in the stock. The mag wasnt properly seated. I bet its your stock.

I tried to check that. Reaching into the action I can't move the magazine at all. I tightened the bolts that hold the action in as well. It's the space behind the case in the magazine that seems to be the issue. I'll revisit the mag tightness tonight though.

[toby]

I would change out the stock.

[joelogic]

This happens on my stock 10FCPK in .308 sometimes. I have to consciously pull the bolt as far back as it will go and smoothly push it forward. It helps when I makes sure the rounds are as rearward as possible when loading the mag.

[MongooseV8]

Looks like you have a centerfeed action. The magazine should be wedged into the stock and since you have a choate stock my guess is the magwell area was cut too deep. I would take off the stock and see if you can pull the magazine box upwards a touch.

[Bastard]

it is broken - I'll give you $20 for it

in all seriousness, it looks like the mag is sitting to low in the stock - take the stock off and play with the magazine, you may have to block the bottom of it to get it to stay all the way up.

[jlmurphy]

The problem is that the rounds pivot on the magazine follower. You can bend the spring so that it applies more rear lift, also check that the internal surfaces inside the magazine are polished and lubed, if the case head catches on the rear they won't feed.

[CptDan]

My 223 varmint does the same thing with my Choate Stock.

[jeff1776]

Thanks for all the suggestions guys. I'll see how much room I have to move the magazine up. I cleaned and polished the inside up quick like. I also stretched the spring out to see if that would help. I may buy a new spring and follower just to cross that off the list. There's atleast a 1/2" gap between the back of the magazine and shoulder of the case (see pic) does that seem excessive?

[jlmurphy]

I have a long action Win. Model 70 that I shoot 6.5X55 Swedish with, the loaded rounds were 1/2" shorter than the blind magazine. I shortened the follower and placed a synthetic 3/8" block at the rear of the magazine. No more feeding issues.

[jeff1776]

I have a long action Win. Model 70 that I shoot 6.5X55 Swedish with, the loaded rounds were 1/2" shorter than the blind magazine. I shortened the follower and placed a synthetic 3/8" block at the rear of the magazine. No more feeding issues.

I thought about doing that. I was worried the spacer would interfere with the spring. I guess I'll revisit that tonight too.

[jeff1776]

ok, here's an update. the magazine is not lose. there is no movement at all, side to side or up and down. next up i looked at the clearance between the bottom of the bolt and the top of the magazine. it's got about 1/16" of clearance (see pic)...


i guess i'm back to getting a new mag spring and follower, and maybe modifying the follower to shorten the internal dimension of the mag.

[Fjold]

The magazine box is built for a 308 based cartridge loaded with up to 200 gain bullets so it will be close to 1/2" longer than the 22.250 loaded with 50-55 grain bullets.

I have a 22.250 that is built on an old, 110 J action (longer than the 10 action) but I haven't had any issues with it feeding like that.