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  • ExtremeX
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    • Sep 2010
    • 7160

    Remington 700 - Torque Values

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    thegiff
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    • Aug 2008
    • 363

    40-65 in-lb, depends if pillars installed
    15-18 in-lb
    15-18 in-lb, tighten the index side first and completely, then tighten other side leaving a gap.
    65 in-lb
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      ExtremeX
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      • Sep 2010
      • 7160

      There are no pillars installed... my concern was with the cheap aluminum bottom metal... many say not to use the full 65 in/lb to help prevent damage to the bottom metal.

      Also, do you loc-tite the scope base screws to the receiver?

      Thanks for the heads up on the index marks... I saw that in the instructions as well.
      Last edited by ExtremeX; 11-18-2013, 3:43 PM.
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        winxp_man
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 2038

        My setup.

        Remington 700 SPS Varmint to Choate stock. 65 in/p using stock bottom metal. I also use BLUE loctite to the action screws and hand tighen both screws then tighten the front action screw first then the rear action screw next.

        TPS (steel) base to action- 20 in/p with blue loctite (MAKE SURE ITS NOT RED LOCTITE)
        TPS (steel) rings for scope 15 in/p also installed with bit of blue loctite
        TPS (steel) rings to base 65 in/p

        On some side notes. The make sure the scope base does not need bedding. Put the fron two screws in first and hand tighten them and look for major gaps at the rear. Then do the opposit put the rear in first and hand tighten them and check for gaps at the front. If no gaps are present no bedding of the scope base is needed. I then install all screw one by one with a little bit of blue loctite and hand tighten them. After which from the front to the back crank down to needed inch pounds NOT foot pounds.
        Last edited by winxp_man; 11-18-2013, 3:23 PM.
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          thegiff
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          • Aug 2008
          • 363

          Well, if no pillars then you can crush the stock, besides the bottom metal. 65in-lb on a 1/4-28 screw should give around 1100 lb clamping per screw.

          45 in-lb is about 790lb per screw.

          I prefer loctite. Make sure you use the removable kind.

          TPS doesn't give torque values in their instructions, the torque range given works for most steel screws in aluminum or steel rings without stripping or screw failure, while preventing the scope from slipping. Note that if you fully clamp the side opposite the index marks so that there is no gap nearly certainly you will crush your scope.
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            Vu 308
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            • Oct 2007
            • 2565

            Originally posted by ExtremeX
            There are no pillars installed... my concern was with the cheap aluminum bottom metal... many say not to use the full 65 ft/lb to help prevent damage to the bottom metal.

            Also, do you loc-tite the scope base screws to the receiver?

            Thanks for the heads up on the index marks... I saw that in the instructions as well.

            DO NOT USE FOOT POUNDS...everything on a gun except a barrel to the action is in INCH POUNDS....
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              ExtremeX
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              • Sep 2010
              • 7160

              Originally posted by Vu 308
              DO NOT USE FOOT POUNDS...everything on a gun except a barrel to the action is in INCH POUNDS....
              Ya that was a typo....

              Corrected
              Last edited by ExtremeX; 11-18-2013, 3:45 PM.
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                winxp_man
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 2038

                Originally posted by thegiff
                Well, if no pillars then you can crush the stock, besides the bottom metal. 65in-lb on a 1/4-28 screw should give around 1100 lb clamping per screw.

                45 in-lb is about 790lb per screw.

                I prefer loctite. Make sure you use the removable kind.

                TPS doesn't give torque values in their instructions, the torque range given works for most steel screws in aluminum or steel rings without stripping or screw failure, while preventing the scope from slipping. Note that if you fully clamp the side opposite the index marks so that there is no gap nearly certainly you will crush your scope.


                Just re-read the Ops statement and saw no pillars then yes 45 in/p will be the most you would want to go.
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                  winxp_man
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                  • Jun 2009
                  • 2038

                  Originally posted by ExtremeX
                  There are no pillars installed... my concern was with the cheap aluminum bottom metal... many say not to use the full 65 in/lb to help prevent damage to the bottom metal.

                  Also, do you loc-tite the scope base screws to the receiver?

                  Thanks for the heads up on the index marks... I saw that in the instructions as well.
                  So the B&C does not have the aluminum bedding?
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                  • #10
                    postal
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                    • Mar 2008
                    • 4566

                    I use TPS base/rings.

                    I did need to use blue loktite on the ring base to rail. I first installed without it, and one of them backed out on me really quickly.

                    I dont use loktite on the ring cap screws.

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                      winxp_man
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 2038

                      Originally posted by postal

                      I dont use loktite on the ring cap screws.
                      I didnt do that on one the two setups and the screws loosened up a bit and had to fix it with loctite afterwards. Its not a bad thing to put a bit on the screws before tightening the caps.
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                        ExtremeX
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                        • Sep 2010
                        • 7160

                        Originally posted by winxp_man
                        So the B&C does not have the aluminum bedding?
                        It does have an aluminum bedding block, like shown in their stock photo... but no pillars like what it used in the factory Hogue stock.

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                          ExtremeX
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                          • Sep 2010
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                          Originally posted by postal
                          I use TPS base/rings.

                          I did need to use blue loktite on the ring base to rail. I first installed without it, and one of them backed out on me really quickly.

                          I dont use loktite on the ring cap screws.
                          For the ring caps to ring base... I've never used loc-tite in the past, and never had issues... Larue mounts, PERP, DNZ, Warne rings... but almost everything I use in the past was aluminum not steel except the Warne rings.

                          I will use it on the base/rail to receiver... I don't see myself ever needing to remove that.
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                            CK_32
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                            • Sep 2010
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                            The books and what I've always gone by is:

                            60-65ip for rings to base
                            18-20ip for rings to rings
                            55-60ip for action to stock


                            What I have learned is blue lock tit rings both ring to ring and base to ring. Scope worked lose once. NEVER again. I don't lock tit the action. Never saw a need to as of yet.
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                            • #15
                              winxp_man
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                              • Jun 2009
                              • 2038

                              Originally posted by ExtremeX
                              It does have an aluminum bedding block, like shown in their stock photo... but no pillars like what it used in the factory Hogue stock.

                              Well there is not need for pillars being its all aluminum bedding block. I have put together and taken apart quite a few rifles and always tighten the action screws to 60-65 in/p with no issues ever. Do what you feel is safe for you in the end. I'm just giving you the way I do it. I have done this with HS precision stocks and the newst one I got a choate stock.

                              The military on the M24's uses 65 in/p and they use the HS precision stocks with full aluminum bedding just like B&C or any other full aluminum bedding.
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