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  • #16
    MongooseV8
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 4426

    Its not really about increasing the noise level, brakes redirect noise in their nature. Don't buy a Vias brake cause you think it will only make your rifle a bit louder. It will feel a lot louder since the pressure and sound are redirected.

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    • #17
      shooterfpga
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 2761

      Originally posted by jetman624
      I got a brake for my 300WM from this guy:



      I don't know that you can beat the price, and the product looks top notch.

      I haven't shot it yet, but if you look around, you will see nothing but good things about his product.
      I bought my brake from ross schuler and not the page linked but you can order from ross via this website. I emailed ross directly however. The page belongs to a friend of his and you will get ross schulers brakes by navigating the site to his link. All other brakes shown there are another gunsmith. and ross has his own page but its pretty obscure compared to this one and this is the most linked to site when trying to contact either gunsmiths.

      The ross schuler brake is absolutely amazing and at $45 shipped and customized for your barrel you cant beat it.

      I bought a miculek brake for another one of my rifles because its similar. while it does work, it is much louder and more annoying. I am not sure if its because it isnt ported on top but im debating having ross turn me one to replace it.
      U.S. Army Combat Engineer

      Originally posted by Cactuscooler
      I have Paramilitary training

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      • #18
        Lucky Scott
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 2604

        "Its not really about increasing the noise level, brakes redirect noise in their nature. Don't buy a Vias brake cause you think it will only make your rifle a bit louder. It will feel a lot louder since the pressure and sound are redirected."

        I understand. I know lots of shooters use a muzzle brake and redirecting the sound is part of that. I just want to make my rifle better, and hopefully become a better shooter. If I can do that without the shooter next to me hating me, that would be fine.
        I know that at my range muzzle brakes are not allowed for the first half a dozen lanes, but after that, they are fine.
        I think there are enough rifles using a brake that people are used to it.

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        • #19
          Multra
          Banned
          • Jun 2012
          • 179

          Originally posted by Cypriss32
          Dont care, move if you dont like it.
          I suppose you can be an inconsiderate ****, I can also insure plenty of hot .308 brass hits you in the side of the head.

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          • #20
            MongooseV8
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 4426

            Lol gotta love range pansies. Guns are loud get over it.

            My favorite is when a dude with an ar15 or ar10 with a brake gets all bent out of shape because I light off 5 rounds of my braked 243. Meanwhile he is over there spraying brass at everyone and shooting 100 rounds that are almost as loud! It doesn't bother me at all, I just enjoy the irony.

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            • #21
              LynnJr
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2013
              • 7956

              Here are some brakes I use for my hunting rifles.The little one on the bottom is from Darryl Holland.It has a good sized chamber so the exiting gases can have something to slam against thus slowing recoil.
              If you read the second link from SwitchBarrel it discusses the cone that strips the gases off the bullet and improving efficiency.
              In a nutshell they all seem to work.
              Last edited by LynnJr; 03-25-2014, 8:55 PM.
              Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
              Southwest Regional Director
              Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
              www.unlimitedrange.org
              Not a commercial business.
              URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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              • #22
                CelticMonster
                Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 441

                At indoor ranges, I can understand where sound may be an issue as it will not only be redirected out of the muzzle brake, but will then bounce off the walls inside the range so everyone hears it. However, if you know you will be shooting in an indoor range with calibers of guns ranging from .22-.500 S&W as well as rifle cartridges like .22- .300 Win Mag or bigger, you better have awesome hearing protection regardless for your own sake. Firearms are loud, they are miniature explosions with gasses being expelled in a directed fashion. Those little memory foam pillow plugs won't fit the bill for most people just by themselves. I'm not saying that you should walk into a range and start doing rapid fire with a cannon and destroy everyone's ear drums, but at least be courteous and let them know what you have for your set-up so they are prepared. After that, it's time to sit down and enjoy your shoot.

                With that said, the purpose of a muzzle brake when applied to the shooter's use and needs is very essential to comfortable and controllable shooting.

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                • #23
                  jetman624
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2011
                  • 514

                  Originally posted by shooterfpga
                  I bought my brake from ross schuler and not the page linked but you can order from ross via this website. I emailed ross directly however. The page belongs to a friend of his and you will get ross schulers brakes by navigating the site to his link. All other brakes shown there are another gunsmith. and ross has his own page but its pretty obscure compared to this one and this is the most linked to site when trying to contact either gunsmiths.

                  The ross schuler brake is absolutely amazing and at $45 shipped and customized for your barrel you cant beat it.

                  I bought a miculek brake for another one of my rifles because its similar. while it does work, it is much louder and more annoying. I am not sure if its because it isnt ported on top but im debating having ross turn me one to replace it.
                  I believe the guy I linked to is using the same design as Ross...

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                  • #24
                    shooterfpga
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 2761

                    Originally posted by jetman624
                    I believe the guy I linked to is using the same design as Ross...
                    They are similar, ross uses only three port brakes and his friend the page which you linked uses four and five ports. Both are good.

                    Its confusing and others have ordered via that main page thinking it was ross but it was his friend, which his name escapes me right now.
                    Last edited by shooterfpga; 11-01-2013, 10:41 AM.
                    U.S. Army Combat Engineer

                    Originally posted by Cactuscooler
                    I have Paramilitary training

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                    • #25
                      jetman624
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2011
                      • 514

                      Originally posted by shooterfpga
                      They are similar, ross uses only three port brakes and his friend the page which you linked uses four and five ports. Both are good.

                      Its confusing and others have ordered via that main page thinking it was ross but it was his friend, which his name escapes me right now.
                      Nathan Wright.

                      Yeah, different number of ports, but based on the same design. Same port design, angle, etc...

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                      • #26
                        shooterfpga
                        Veteran Member
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 2761

                        Originally posted by jetman624
                        Nathan Wright.

                        Yeah, different number of ports, but based on the same design. Same port design, angle, etc...
                        Correct and thanks.
                        U.S. Army Combat Engineer

                        Originally posted by Cactuscooler
                        I have Paramilitary training

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                        • #27
                          2zero9
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 887

                          Originally posted by Multra
                          I suppose you can be an inconsiderate ****, I can also insure plenty of hot .308 brass hits you in the side of the head.
                          So you're telling me, if I go to a full range to shoot my rifle but there's a sissy next to me that can't handle a loud gun, that I shouldn't shoot? Come on, get real.
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                          • #28
                            Lucky Scott
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 2604

                            Hey LynnJr, Is that a Mike Kuhl blower your rifle is leaning against????

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                            • #29
                              LynnJr
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 7956

                              Lucky Scott
                              It is the last big bertha 6-71 Sid Waterman ever built with a Mike Kuhl dual dominator top on it.I am running two 1050's inline rather than sidesaddle like everyone else.
                              The only issue running them inline is the vehicles cowl hitting the rear carb.The motor is a talldeck 496 and it sits in a 1974 chevy 4x4 stepside completely covered in Herculiner then painted white.Normally there is tons of room but with a Talldeck block and supercharger manifold the rear carb sits up 11 inches higher.It also sits out past the blowers rear bearing plate.The cowl o those old trucks sits way back but as you get close to the windshield it curves inward about 6 inches messing up all your best plans.

                              The bigger brakes are for my 338 Snipe-Tac and two 50 bmgs plus a spare.One of the 50bmg brakes is made out of titanium and the titanium ran $350 before any machining.The big clamshell is from K-P and makes my 94 pound 50 bmg kick like a 22 rimfire.

                              Any time you add weight to your muzzle you dampen down its vibrations so accuracy should improve but often times it requires one to re-work-up there load.They work the same as a tuner except most muzzlebrakes are fixed and not adjustable so try your best load first.If it shoots better leave it alone if it shoots worse vary the powder charge both ways in very small increments or play with your seating depth.

                              Seating depth fine tunes the pressure curve and will restore your guns accuracy if it drops off.
                              Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
                              Southwest Regional Director
                              Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
                              www.unlimitedrange.org
                              Not a commercial business.
                              URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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                              • #30
                                Agustav
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 1172

                                Is there any benefit in have more than 3 ports?

                                I would think most pressure is bleed off by the first or second port. Therefore, the additional port will not provide much benefit?

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