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  • Exodus343
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 4735

    LOP too short, suggestions

    Trying to see what I can do to my stock to add another 2" to my LOP before saving and dropping the coin on an adjustable stock..


    no my arms won't reverse and start getting shorter

    my LOP is 15" my stock is 13"

    recoil pad is glued on, no idea where to start, stock is a HS Precision Sendero in case anyone is wondering
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    ivanimal
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    • Sep 2002
    • 14357

    Enhance your shotgun’s performance with Graco’s adjustable butt plates, designed for precise length of pull and pad plate adjustments to improve shooting comfort and accuracy.


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    • #3
      Exodus343
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      • Jun 2012
      • 4735

      this will work for a r700 stock?
      it says shotguns, or does that not matter
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      • #4
        ivanimal
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        • Sep 2002
        • 14357

        They are made over sized and then you trim them down. I use blue tape and a good table top belt sander.
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        • #5
          ivanimal
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          • Sep 2002
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          A few months ago I bought a nice very lightly used Remy 5R Milspec. While the rifle in it's factory form is a great gun I really wanted some adjustability in the stock. Since a new McMillan or AICS stock isn't in my budget right now I searched for some lower cost alternatives. I first added a...


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          • #6
            Exodus343
            Veteran Member
            • Jun 2012
            • 4735

            Originally posted by ivanimal
            wow... that is amazing!!!!

            bookmarked for future reference!
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              jfifer
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              • Jun 2012
              • 3205

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              • #8
                Clever
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 591

                Hey EX you are going to upgrade to a fully adjustable stock, right? If not then we can change the recoil pad to a much thicker one and install a Karsten Cheek Piece. Bed the recoil lug and you are done. Until the TRG order is placed.
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                • #9
                  russ69
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 9348

                  Originally posted by Exodus343
                  ....my LOP is 15" my stock is 13"...
                  I see your problem, your arms are too long. There is no good way to shorten your arms that wouldn't leave pretty big scars so you probably want to make your rifle longer. Call HSP and see if they will put a long recoil pad on for you.
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                  • #10
                    toby
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 10576

                    I don't think you pad is glued on that would be a bad move. I have found the screw holes are just very small slits and you need to pull down on the sides equally to find them.

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                    • #11
                      NorCalFocus
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 3913

                      If you don't want to spend the coin on the adjustable one, you can always just shape some wood and paint it.

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                      • #12
                        Whiterabbit
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 7587

                        I own this. It is really great. The bee's knees, in fact. I have a bony shoulder and like shooting irons, so I need extra drop in my rifles or I get bruised. Kinda like a ladies stock but for orangutan arms and no toe out.

                        How do I know this? Because I fit one of those to a rifle of mine and tuned till it felt right.

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                        • #13
                          Khromo
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 742

                          Those Graco adjustable plates are really nice. Almost anyone can find their ideal configuration in there somewhere. They are heavy, though, and they cost a few bucks. Here is an alternative that may or may not appeal to you.

                          I learned this from some true professionals, who had the money and access to pro gunsmiths to use a more elegant solution. They preferred this method because of the weight saving and rock solid stability it offered.

                          They identified their ideal length of pull and drop at heel using duct tape and spacers like these:

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                          Trial and error, and a lot of ammo and range time. They used paper targets to prove what worked best for them. They did not rely on feel or comfort level. Small groups were their witnesses, because they can't lie or deceive.

                          Once they had settled on precisely what they wanted, they either took their results to a pro, or they broke out the bench-top belt sander. They used spacers and a recoil pad to achieve exactly the right stock configuration for their shooting situation.

                          The guys who felt they needed adjustability to allow for different shooting positions, vest thickness, etc. installed stainless threaded anchors in the butt stock and used hex head bolts (Home Depot, Lowe's...) so they could change the LOP by adding or removing spacers.

                          It's not hard to achieve professional looking results in your garage, if you are patient and understand the use of different grits. Or, you could have a pro do it for not much money.

                          The advantages are bullet-proof stability, lighter weight, and lower cost. The big disadvantage is much slower adjustability. The Graco adjusts solidly, and very quickly and easily. The weight and change in balance is probably a problem for some guys, a benefit for others.

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                          • #14
                            jfifer
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 3205

                            You can buy a really thick piece of rubber butt and add it. I have an ithaca, and when I had the original wood furniture it came with a 2" piece of rubber the previous owner modded. It was really nice. Not pretty but totally usefull. Looked like it just needed a finer grit if looks concern you.

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                            • #15
                              osis32
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 5912

                              I don't know if it would work but maybe a limbsaver?
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