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  • #16
    NorCalFocus
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 3913

    The .243 will work for deer, I'd want more for a bear.

    The .270 will work for both.

    The other thing to consider is if you reload or not. Try finding .308 and .243 in a store right now. Then look at .270 and 30-06. Theres a ton more .270 out there and better selection of it. However if you hand load, its a moot point.

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    • #17
      Gnome
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2007
      • 1693

      Gentlemen,

      I know nothing of hunting and various hunting calibers, but someone once told me the 30-06 round was good enough to take down any and all North American game. Any truth to this?

      Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
      During Y2K my neighbor and I were talking and he said he had a basement full of water and canned food. He asked if I had stocked up and I said that I had. I told him I bought a 12 guage shotgun, a .308 rifle and several bricks of .22 ammo.

      He is an anti-gun guy and he said. "Well, you can't eat ammunition". I replied with "When I'm starving to death with a case of ammunition, who's door do you think I am going to knock on?"

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      • #18
        chad allred
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 877

        Sure...its all about bullet quality and shot placement.
        I just bought an American in 243 from turners.was $388 including tax for the rifle and $30 for the dros/fees.

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        • #19
          ar15barrels
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          • Jan 2006
          • 57175

          Originally posted by Gnome
          someone once told me the 30-06 round was good enough to take down any and all North American game. Any truth to this?
          Yes.
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          • #20
            NorCalFocus
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            • Aug 2013
            • 3913

            Yup. 30-06 will kill anything in N America.

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            • #21
              Divernhunter
              Calguns Addict
              • May 2010
              • 8753

              Also most game around the world. Same with 308win which was the replacement mil cartridge. The 308win works at higher pressures so it get about the same performance. It is all about bullet selection and placement.
              A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt.
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              • #22
                rm1911
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                • Jan 2013
                • 4073

                30-06 or 270 (which is just the '06 necked down) or 308 will kill anything in north america. none is necessarily "better" than the other. plenty of bullet selection, all have plenty of availability, all wonderful to reload for as in lots of powders work well for them. I hunt with an '06 because I found one a long time ago for cheap and it shoots great. so why bother with another. and of course I have two garands and it makes reloading easier.

                the real issue is not the round but the shooter. most hunting will be under, probably well under, 400 yards. and honestly if you shoot farther, don't. it's just too many variables (distance, wind, stable rest, etc.) to make a clean kill, then you have to track and find it, and well, long shots are not really gonna work alot of the time for hunting.

                so the burden is on the shooter. the rifle, a ruger american, a savage axis, or whatever more expensive rifle, will be fine. plenty accurate, far more than necesary. hell, how many deer have been killed with the 30-30, not known as a tackdriver??? you need to practice, and not just 5 rounds off a bench then hunt.
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                • #23
                  rm1911
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                  • Jan 2013
                  • 4073

                  30-06 or 270 (which is just the '06 necked down) or 308 will kill anything in north america. none is necessarily "better" than the other. plenty of bullet selection, all have plenty of availability, all wonderful to reload for as in lots of powders work well for them. I hunt with an '06 because I found one a long time ago for cheap and it shoots great. so why bother with another. and of course I have two garands and it makes reloading easier.

                  the real issue is not the round but the shooter. most hunting will be under, probably well under, 400 yards. and honestly if you shoot farther, don't. it's just too many variables (distance, wind, stable rest, etc.) to make a clean kill, then you have to track and find it, and well, long shots are not really gonna work alot of the time for hunting.

                  so the burden is on the shooter. the rifle, a ruger american, a savage axis, or whatever more expensive rifle, will be fine. plenty accurate, far more than necesary. hell, how many deer have been killed with the 30-30, not known as a tackdriver??? you need to practice, and not just 5 rounds off a bench then hunt.
                  NRA Life Member since 1990

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                  • #24
                    bitethebullet
                    Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 187

                    If you're not shooting a bunch, I would go with a 30-06. It will shoot a wide range of bullet weights so you can tailor the round for almost anything. From low recoil powder-puff loads to full-tilt 220gr. For me, the amount of rounds sent down range and only having a slight limitation on bullet choice compared to the 06 the .308 was a no brainer. It uses less powder, kicks slightly less, and has the same performance as the 06 within the same bullet weights.

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                    • #25
                      kcheung2
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                      • Aug 2012
                      • 4387

                      Another option in your price range is the Marlin XS7 line.
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                      • #26
                        Subotai
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                        • Jun 2010
                        • 11289

                        I've been researching the 7mm-08 for a potential future buy. Maybe others can tell you more about it?
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                        • #27
                          ar15barrels
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                          • Jan 2006
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                          Originally posted by frankm
                          I've been researching the 7mm-08 for a potential future buy. Maybe others can tell you more about it?
                          Great cartridge if you reload.
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                          • #28
                            Ike Arumba
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                            • Apr 2009
                            • 302

                            A couple of takes on the 7mm-08:
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                            • #29
                              Kelster1574
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 1053

                              Just wondering what the OP purchased? and your thoughts on it? I just jailed a Ruger American in .243....why you ask, not sure. I was picking up the Savage Axis Youth in .243 for my boys and thought...I have a variety of other calibers but not a .243. They had a good price, $335 so I bought it, now just have to figure out what to use it for....lol
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                              • #30
                                toby
                                Banned
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 10576

                                You will be very very happy with a 270. for a hunting rifle you would never use 220 grain bullets in an 30-06 nor the STUPID 55 grain accelerators. I have had a few 06's over a 40 year span and only took one animal with one of them. I much rather shoot my 270 or one of my 25 caliber rifles. IMO

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