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  • Nevertipsy
    Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 470

    Help me build my budget Remington 700!

    Hi everyone this is my somewhat botched attempt at building a Budget precision Remington 700 precision rifle for budget minded people. I originally had a budget of $1000, but my research along the road has steered me elsewhere. I hope that this post will be informative to others. I'd also like to thank everyone who has put their input and given my advice along the way, especially those at the CAPRC, whom are veterans in the field and knowledge has been most informative and helpful.

    Necro update: 8/19/2014 - I have learned a lot more about precision rifles -BUDGET doesn't belong in this game (if you are serious). My rifle has evolved and I love going to matches. Removed useless information and edited for mistakes. If I could redo everything... I'd probably go trued-700 custom build from the start using a donor action, didn't know I would enjoy bolt guns so much...

    Rifle is going to be chambered in .308 because the ammo is more widely available, and shouldn't break the bank to shoot. Please keep in mind I'm on a budget. Right now I'm looking at these options, if you have any advice on the parts, better value substitutes (or lower prices elsewhere), I'd appreciate it greatly.

    Rifle:
    Remington 700 SPS Tactical (internet price ~$650)
    Places to check: Budsgunshop, grabagun, Riflegear
    -Check for rebates at remington.com/rebates

    Pros:
    Cheaper price
    Threaded Barrel

    Cons:
    20" Barrel - loss in Muzzle Velocity
    Lower resale value
    Crappy Hogue stock

    The better option if you are serious is the remington 700 5R 24" (internet price ~$1100)
    Places to check: Riflegear & budsgunshop

    Pros:
    HS precision stock worth roughly ~300
    24" 5R Barrel for that extra reach

    Cons:
    Higher price tag
    Barrel does not come threaded
    Not ideal for hunting

    Deciding your rifle at this point is important, think about what your end goal really is before purchasing.
    -If you are the guy who enjoys leisure shooting, occasional range time, hunting. The SPS tactical is probably better for you.
    -If you want compete in local matches, shoot out to 600+ then the 5R would be a better choice for you.
    -If money is not an issue, and you really want to travel to big matches, and are CERTAIN AND COMMITTED then go with a custom rifle using either a trued/blueprinted 700 action or a defiance/surgeon.


    OPTIC:
    DON'T CHEAP OUT ON GLASS - cant hit what you cant see.

    I found a nice deal on an open box Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 FFP here: ($150 off)

    These units come with lifetime warranties that are amazing from what I've read. There are more expensive scopes, but I believe this to be the best bang for my dollar considering my goal of wanting to try competitions.

    Another great option is a SFWA SS scope, I've heard great things, but personally have not looked down one yet.

    Base: You want a 20MOA base from what I've learned from Randall, you want steel, because steel can accept any kind of rings. The best bang for dollar is TPS
    which can be found:

    and:


    Rings: Lowest should be Burris XTR rings, TPS would be best value, and their are nicer ones that hold good resale value like Seekins.

    Base + Ring Combos at SWFA - This is something that was not easy to find on the website, but they have combo deals that makes buying sets cheaper, I heavily recommend the TPS set as you save something like $25, also the rings are steel.

    &



    Stock:
    SPS comes with a piece of junk
    5R comes with a HS precision stock, decent resale value, good for hunting
    Best thing to do is go to a local match, and ask some of the guys if you can get behind their rifles, its like buying a car or shoes, you have to try it in order to know if you like it or not. CAPRC has monthly matches with super friendly people, I got behind at least 3-4 different stocks before going with an AICS with viper skins. I sold off the HS precision because the internal box magazine capped me off at only 5x Rounds.

    Bipod: Cant go wrong with Harris S-BRM, buy once cry once my fellow CGers have reiterated to me

    Try CG and SH forum for used ones to save money. I got really lucky. Resale value on these are also pretty good.

    Trigger: UPDATE 8/19/2014
    This is something I never addressed in my original post because I didn't think it was important. I upgraded to a timney, and it makes a world of difference. the x-mark pros are just terrible terrible triggers.

    Muzzle Brake:
    if you get the SPS tactical, you can make use of the threaded barrel by getting an MB
    Ross Schulers muzzle brake is the most affordable option and works.


    If you got the 5R like I did, you will need it threaded - AR15barrels did mine.
    Randall is a friendly and informative gunsmith that does excellent work, he threaded my barrel at a great price and timed it perfectly.

    I'll start posting pictures as everything starts coming together. I also wanted to note that Sniperhide the CAPRC(local) forums are GREAT resources for precision shooters and for looking for used gear. Thank you to those who have taken the time to educate me and answer my questions. -Especially AR15barrels & Iloveguns.

    8/19/14 update All in all, I've learned a lot, my mentality has also changed a lot. Matches and competition make range shooting so much more fun. I went to CAPRC clinics, became a member, and now go to monthly matches, shooting alone just isn't nearly as fun. Have fun, and get out there and shoot!

    some updated progress pics

    Last edited by Nevertipsy; 08-19-2014, 5:33 PM. Reason: Updated
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  • #2
    CK_32
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Sep 2010
    • 14369

    Get either that AAC or a Varment with a heavy barrel and buy a B&C stock. And you will have a great set up and still be under $1k (before optics and mounts)

    I personally like EGW/Badger ordnance I piece rails

    And either night force, Egw or badger rings.

    That scope ok but also look at a Bushnell either 5-15x or their fixed 10x elite tactical 3200 line. One of my fav sub $800 scopes.

    Your bi pod is a good choice as well swivel isn't really necessary if you want to save a few $$. I have one and have never NEEDED it. 6-9 is good anything higher is kind of over kill. IMO if you need something higher than 9" you need shooting sticks.

    Personal I'd hold off on the brake until later after you pick up a better stock.


    Edit: if your not a member of snipers hide I'd suggest joining there. A lot more long range guys with A LOT of good info. Good forum for the LR stuff
    Last edited by CK_32; 07-15-2013, 12:47 PM.
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    • #3
      Nevertipsy
      Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 470

      Thank you for the input CK, I looked through the parts you listed, and a lot of the items appear to unfortunately be out of my price range. The ring mounts I can add onto the scope only come out to be $25 which is about 100 cheaper than the badger ordinance ones.

      My friend has a spare HS precision stock that he'd probably let go to me for really cheap (maybe free if I'm really lucky) I was planning to sell the hogue overmold and give the money from that to him.

      The break is on my last list of priorities, I've read that is better to train without it at first, and then when you put it on, it'll make a world of difference.
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      • #4
        XenosAce
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 3165

        Do not forget UTG parts. They are cheap for budget build. So far I have a pair of their scope rings and they seem to be doing well, and a scope that I have had for ever and primarily have used on my AR until my savage axis .308 scope took a turn for the worst.

        "Yo buddy, you still alive?" -Larry "Pixy" Foulke

        Originally posted by FremontJames
        XenosAce, San Diego's finest drunk wrasslin' tranny 'snatchin security guard.

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        • #5
          CK_32
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Sep 2010
          • 14369

          No problem I remember how it was trying to put my first longer range rifle together.

          Also just another thing I've come to learn is dont skimp on the optic or mounts. If you need to save up try to save up for the right solid gear. Rifle does you no good if your scopes moving all over and your not hitting anything. I learned the hard way buying cheap rings too and ended up throwing them away cause they came loose every 20 shots. But if its not in your price range now you can always upgrade later. But the top part of the rifle is almost more important than the rifle it self.


          As for the brake I find them more hassle than they are worth. A lot of guys swear by them but depending on brake it makes your semi loud rifle and make its really loud for everyone else on the range including your self depending on where you shoot. Also the recoil on the 308 isn't bad at all especially with the pad Remington rifles come with and most after market stocks now a days. That a proper technique will do almost what a brake will minus the sound. Learn to load your bi pod it will help a lot too.

          GL and happy shooting you'll love your 700. Good rifle and fun gun. I recently started shooting mine a little more lately too. Got into hand guns/shotguns for a while.
          Last edited by CK_32; 07-15-2013, 1:32 PM.
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          • #6
            Arnelcheeze
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 1450

            another vote to put more $$$ into an optic, I would put more trust into a Leupold of the same price over the one you listed which looks like a BSA scope which while looks like nice optic and has many great features is really an air gun, airsoft, and or .22LR scope.
            Last edited by Arnelcheeze; 07-15-2013, 1:22 PM.

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            • #7
              mrc44
              Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 363

              I just bought my sps tactical and just bought a Burris one piece mount and rings and put a red field on it. So far so good. It's my first bolt action so I am just leaving it stock until I can really notice a differene with a new stock. Why don't you get the gun and mounts and scope, then buy the rest later when you have more money. It's going to shoot just fine the way it is.. GL

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              • #8
                Nevertipsy
                Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 470

                Thanks for the feedback keep em coming. I thought everyone usually said that Primary arms scopes were all good to go, the reviews looked good as well.
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                • #9
                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 57174

                  Originally posted by Nevertipsy
                  The break is on my last list of priorities, I've read that is better to train without it at first, and then when you put it on, it'll make a world of difference.
                  False.

                  It's better to have the brake from day one.
                  Then you have the benefit of spotting all your own misses on steel.
                  Without the brake, the gun's recoil keeps you from seeing where the bullet impacts.

                  Get a 3 port muzzle brake from Ross Schuler for around $50 shipped.

                  I can index it to your barrel.

                  Get a TPS 20moa STEEL scope base.

                  They have a recoil shoulder on the bottom which is the big feature of the Badger.

                  Get a Harris S-BRM from Triad Taqctical.

                  While you are there, get one of the redtac rear bags or the small wedge rear bags.


                  I have Bipod Locks in-stock and I can install one on your bipod when you come over for the other work.
                  Last edited by ar15barrels; 07-15-2013, 3:24 PM.
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                  • #10
                    762shooter
                    Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 279

                    Remington 700SPS tactical 84206 - $589.99


                    dnz Game Reaper:

                    goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1373926963&sr=1-1&keywords=14700+game

                    Bushnell Elite 3200 Tactical Rifle Scope 10x 40mm


                    sandbags instead of bipod + which ever comp you want.

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                    • #11
                      ar15barrels
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 57174

                      Originally posted by XenosAce
                      Do not forget UTG parts. They are cheap for budget build.
                      The PRICE is the only good thing about UTG products.
                      The good news is that the price was so low that you won't feel as bad about wasting the money when the products fail and you throw them away.
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                      Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                      Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                      Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                      Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                      • #12
                        Nevertipsy
                        Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 470

                        would this be a viable option?



                        people mentioned weaver several times, only sad part is, there's no free shipping. but if its that much more important/better I'll spend the extra money.
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                        • #13
                          CK_32
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 14369

                          I know your in a budget but precision rifles is not one where you can pinch pennies bud. Or else your just trashing your money.

                          Buy once cry once is KING in the LR game. You have your rifle wait a few weeks and pick up parts in due time. I can't live with t self backing you buying low end stuff for your 700. You'll probably want to sell it after a few months cause its my doing what you want it to cause you saved a few pennies.

                          I've seen it so many times.
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                          • #14
                            Nevertipsy
                            Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 470

                            Originally posted by CK_32
                            I know your in a budget but precision rifles is not one where you can pinch pennies bud. Or else your just trashing your money.

                            Buy once cry once is KING in the LR game. You have your rifle wait a few weeks and pick up parts in due time. I can't live with t self backing you buying low end stuff for your 700. You'll probably want to sell it after a few months cause its my doing what you want it to cause you saved a few pennies.

                            I've seen it so many times.
                            Thank you very much for your honest opinion CK, I will heed your advice and try to save up a bit more to get more quality parts. I just want to avoid paying excessive amounts for minor benefit. I use PA's red dot and compared to a Aimpoint.. I definitely do not see a $300 performance increase. I will look at the optics you and many others have recommended though since no one has spoken in favor of PA's yet. Again, thank you for your time and advice, I really do appreciate it, and will try to go the route you described.
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                            • #15
                              Nickbowen5
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 570

                              Bipod Is cheaper on amazon
                              WTS AR-15 Parts: BCG, CH, Buffer tube kit, M4 Stock, Blackhawk! Stock
                              http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=785154

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