Marlin introduces a 10mm lever gun.

[splithoof]

Step up to one of the 454 Casull lever guns, for less cost, and you're putting a world of hurt on stuff. That's what I use.

That would be a nice addition to the Rumar line. More capacity than my .45-70G, and I would simply use the ghost-ring sights made by Andy Larsen.

[BOBGBA]

I’m guessing you can run 40 S&W out of the 10mm. That would make a fun plinker that could double as a decent bear gun.

The problem with guessing is sometimes it leads to spreading bad information.
I had previously read on the Marlin site that it does not.
A little fact checking goes a long way.

Here's the link and the quote.

https://www.marlinfirearms.com/s/model_70453/

Reliably feeds a wide range of 10mm Auto factory ammunition (not compatible with 40 S&W cartridges).

[BOBGBA]

Where does .41 magnum rate in this discussion of pistol caliber lever action rifles?

[Grendel Guy]

The problem with guessing is sometimes it leads to spreading bad information.
I had previously read on the Marlin site that it does not.
A little fact checking goes a long way.

Here's the link and the quote.

https://www.marlinfirearms.com/s/model_70453/

Reliably feeds a wide range of 10mm Auto factory ammunition (not compatible with 40 S&W cartridges).

Bob, I've a 10mm Para LS bought before the Remington acquisition. Took it out with my son out in the country where we go shooting. Having a good time and I thought I'd try some .40 S&W out of it. Pointed the muzzle down to make sure the case mouth was seated against the chamber, and pulled the trigger. It went boom alright, my son picked up the spent round and said "You might not want to do that again". He showed me the base with a nice pierced primer. The thought we had that the round went off and before the primer could retract, it pierced the primer. We both agreed that it wasn't designed to do that so that was the end of that.

[jwb28]

Where does .41 magnum rate in this discussion of pistol caliber lever action rifles?

Ballistics by the inch says BB 170gr will get 2000fps in a 16" barrel. The BB website doesn't list velocity for their loads in a rifle. Google 41 mag in a lever action and some stuff comes up. I'm guessing The gain is roughly the same as a 44 mag in a lever. Percentage gain isn't quite as much as a .357mag, but still quite a jump

[Imageview]

170 going 2k would be a middle of the road 30-30 loading in Lyman. I imagine it would shed velocity quicker however. Only 150 fps faster than a 357 180 is listed at. My guess is you could load 41 quite a bit hotter, the Buffalo bore loads are well below Lyman’s max velocities.

[jwb28]

Yep, I'm sure the 41 mag in a lever would gain a bunch. I just don't want to start with another caliber. That's the reason I haven't bought an 1873. If I go that route, I'd want it in 44-40 to be historically correct LOL

[Spyder]

That would be a nice addition to the Rumar line. More capacity than my .45-70G, and I would simply use the ghost-ring sights made by Andy Larsen.

Yep. I love 45 Colt, so 454 is a logical addition for hunting situations. I've shot a lot more Colt out of it than I have Casull so far. I put a low profile red dot on it (older Vortex, either venom or viper I forget which) and it's great.

[splithoof]

As quoted directly by Rumar:

”Reliably feeds a wide range of 10mm Auto factory ammunition (not compatible with 40 S&W cartridges).”…I’m going to take a guess and say that because the case is rimless, it likely head-spaces on the case mouth, thus the .40S&W is not long enough. Someone please correct me if wrong about that, or expand on it.

As to the .41 Magnum, it would be a better cartridge due to it’s design with a rim for use in a lever-action, but it is not common in any semi-automatic pistols, so the whole concept of one cartridge for two weapons goes out the window on Ruger’s marketing efforts.

[golfish]

Where does .41 magnum rate in this discussion of pistol caliber lever action rifles?

Bob, Apples has a 41 mag Marlin. I've shot my share of lever guns. That Marlin is the nicest one I've ever shot. I like it more than my Winchester 92 in 45LC.

[Big Chudungus]

The problem with guessing is sometimes it leads to spreading bad information.
I had previously read on the Marlin site that it does not.
A little fact checking goes a long way.

Here's the link and the quote.

https://www.marlinfirearms.com/s/model_70453/

Reliably feeds a wide range of 10mm Auto factory ammunition (not compatible with 40 S&W cartridges).

seems like a deal breaker, given 10mm is much more expensive. Its a lever gun, not a CCW semi-auto blowback, where every gram and mm counts, and where you gotta balance slide weight, spring and power to make it cycle reliably. They should've done something to grab the case by the base's indent so it could eat .40 and 10mm equally. Especially on a gun that is more likely to be a fun plinker.

[natman]

seems like a deal breaker, given 10mm is much more expensive. Its a lever gun, not a CCW semi-auto blowback, where every gram and mm counts, and where you gotta balance slide weight, spring and power to make it cycle reliably. They should've done something to grab the case by the base's indent so it could eat .40 and 10mm equally. Especially on a gun that is more likely to be a fun plinker.

Lever guns are notoriously picky about what length of cartridge they'll feed.

[Spyder]

Maybe it's like shooting 40 in a 10mm, where it will work most of the time but isn't all that reliable and factory recommendation is do not.

Even with that, it doesn't interest me NEARLY as much as a 9mm or 45 version. 9mm for low cost and 45 for low velocity, though mild loaded 45Colt would be just fine for that. A traditional looking and functioning 9mm lever gun would be great fun for me and I'd be willing to pay market value for one.

[k1dude]

Maybe it's like shooting 40 in a 10mm, where it will work most of the time but isn't all that reliable and factory recommendation is do not.

Even with that, it doesn't interest me NEARLY as much as a 9mm or 45 version. 9mm for low cost and 45 for low velocity, though mild loaded 45Colt would be just fine for that. A traditional looking and functioning 9mm lever gun would be great fun for me and I'd be willing to pay market value for one.

I agree that a 9mm lever gun would be a smart move. Outside of 22LR, 9mm is the cheapest caliber to shoot by a long shot and we already have 22LR lever guns. 10mm, .357 Mag, and .38 Special aren't cheap like 9mm is.

[Imageview]

Maybe it's like shooting 40 in a 10mm, where it will work most of the time but isn't all that reliable and factory recommendation is do not.

Even with that, it doesn't interest me NEARLY as much as a 9mm or 45 version. 9mm for low cost and 45 for low velocity, though mild loaded 45Colt would be just fine for that. A traditional looking and functioning 9mm lever gun would be great fun for me and I'd be willing to pay market value for one.

It can and has been done. Sadly market cost is something like $3500. Gotta shoot a whole lot of 9mm to make up the difference.