semi-custom bolt action builds

[deckhandmike]

^LRI did some stock work for me, great company. Great communication and super fast turnaround. They sent me pics of the work, details on who did it etc. literally the opposite of most of these big names that take your money and then say dont call us, we’ll call you when we feel like it. Probably the most squared away company I have ever seen in the gun industry by a long shot. No one’s customer service has come even close.

Shipping rifles ain’t cheap though. So decide if you want ship firearm or go local. Randal can do the same stuff while you wait.

[MrFeetZ]

The smart use of that initial $3,000.....training and quality ammo.

Agreed! I have my first class in long distance shooting starting later this month!

[MrFeetZ]

^LRI did some stock work for me, great company. Great communication and super fast turnaround. They sent me pics of the work, details on who did it etc. literally the opposite of most of these big names that take your money and then say dont call us, we?ll call you when we feel like it. Probably the most squared away company I have ever seen in the gun industry by a long shot. No one?s customer service has come even close.

Shipping rifles ain?t cheap though. So decide if you want ship firearm or go local. Randal can do the same stuff while you wait.

Thanks for the info! I think my preference would be to work with Randal once I gather all the pieces, (barrel, action, etc). In the mean time, I'll just spend more time on the RPR as well as on a new tikka varmint i just got in 223. Since its pretty convenient for me to go shooting at 100/300 yards, I figured it make more economical since to get range time shooting 223. Will work on a custom 6.5cm later this year.

Als9, to answer your earlier question; no I do not reload.

[baih777]

Save all your brass. Even 223.
You will end up reloading.

[smoothy8500]

Agreed! I have my first class in long distance shooting starting later this month!

Nice! Which/who?s class are you going to?

[Bhobbs]

A budget friendly option is the Aero Solus action and a prefit barrel.

[Mongo68]

A budget friendly option is the Aero Solus action and a prefit barrel.

That's what I did. Aero Solus, Proof 6.5cm 26", Triggertech Diamond 2 stage, MDT Elite, Fat Bastard brake. Shoots better than I can.

And after two or three months, now Im reloading it as well...

[W.R.Buchanan]

We do all the extra work to build a $3000 class rifle AFTER someone has already mastered a $500 class rifle and factory ammo and they are looking to move to higher levels because someone just starting out is unlikely to see enough benefit from the fancier rifle.
Someone just starting out needs more rounds on target in the wind and some instruction to really learn to shoot beyond the performance limitations of a factory rifle/ammo.

This was Randall's "Nice way" of saying, that you probably can't out shoot a $500 rifle , so why should you get a $3000 rifle. It is pointless unless you are just looking to own a Corvette that will stay Covered Up in your garage cuz you don't know how to drive it!

I also take exception to the people who blame the Trigger on their Rifles or Pistols for their bad shooting.

I have #159 of the first run of Ruger Scouts. I has been a Sub MOA gun from the get go. I have Several 7/8" 5 shot groups shot with my only load of 45 gr of IMR 4895 with 147 gr M80 Ball "recycled" bullets. That same gun shot a 4 3/4" 3 shot group on the Pink Silhouette Ram at 500M at Piru.

I have never even adjusted the trigger on that gun! And the original 100 Federal Cases from the 5 American Eagle Factory Loaded Boxes of ammo I bought for $11 a box have been Reloaded 11 times, and still produce Sub MOA Groups. How can this possibly happen with an inferior gun I paid $600 for new.

I might add that this gun can be used for a variety of tasks from Hunting to Shooting People or Steel Targets, and be right at home on a Dog Sled or in my Jeep. whereas the $3000 mega rifle would probably be knocked off Zero on the first bump.

HAVING A $3000 RIFLE DOESN'T MAKE YOU A GOOD SHOOTER. Having fired 20,000 rounds in a year could make you a good shooter ? But only if you hold your mouth right.

My .02 on ths subject.

Randy

[deckhandmike]

How would a nice rifle be knocked off zero. Wouldn’t that be your scope. Precision built guns and quality ammo can shoot better. Don’t kid yourself. Nothing wrong with buying a rifle you can grow into as your skills progress. I wasted a lot of time and money on cheaper rifles and factory ammo only to realize I could shoot better than my gun and ammo.

[MrFeetZ]

Nice! Which/who?s class are you going to?

ITTS (International Tactical Training Siminars) located at Angeles range. 2 day course and my first formal on rifle. Ive done a couple of their handgun courses and thought that they were top notch.

[kriller134]

ITTS (International Tactical Training Siminars) located at Angeles range. 2 day course and my first formal on rifle. Ive done a couple of their handgun courses and thought that they were top notch.

Not trying to be mean, but I?d be highly suspect of any ?instructor? calling their class sniper rifle. Their class description comes off as super fuddy. I?d recommend going to sniper?s hide and find quality training around here. It?s few and far between.

[MrFeetZ]

Not trying to be mean, but I?d be highly suspect of any ?instructor? calling their class sniper rifle. Their class description comes off as super fuddy. I?d recommend going to sniper?s hide and find quality training around here. It?s few and far between.

Don't think it's mean at all. I appreciate the concern. I agree and think the name of that class is sorta cringe. Had I not already been thru two classes with them before, I'm sure I'd be a little suspect.

However, the owner/instructor is the real deal. Decades of experience with LAPD SWATas well as instructor for other police agency's, federal agencys and miltary. Additionally, (for at least the classes I've been) to all his instructors were either current or retired SWAT personnel. While their credentials are all, IMHO superb, their ability to teach is by far the best I've ever seen. Aside from being knowledgeable, their instructors were great teachers. Efficient, patient, good observors and great communicators. Zero bravado or attitude.

So, my expectation is that it will be a good class with some valuable knowledge that I look forward to learning.

Having said that, I will surly check out snipershide to see about getting some recommendations on additional classes. That place has been a good resource for me to lurk around but I haven't been very involved yet in the forums.

[kriller134]

Don't think it's mean at all. I appreciate the concern. I agree and think the name of that class is sorta cringe. Had I not already been thru two classes with them before, I'm sure I'd be a little suspect.

However, the owner/instructor is the real deal. Decades of experience with LAPD SWATas well as instructor for other police agency's, federal agencys and miltary. Additionally, (for at least the classes I've been) to all his instructors were either current or retired SWAT personnel. While their credentials are all, IMHO superb, their ability to teach is by far the best I've ever seen. Aside from being knowledgeable, their instructors were great teachers. Efficient, patient, good observors and great communicators. Zero bravado or attitude.

So, my expectation is that it will be a good class with some valuable knowledge that I look forward to learning.

Having said that, I will surly check out snipershide to see about getting some recommendations on additional classes. That place has been a good resource for me to lurk around but I haven't been very involved yet in the forums.

Awesome man! I hope you enjoy your class and learn the fundamentals of marksmanship. Snipers hide has a lot of knowledgeable members, but they can be jerks. If you stay out of the pit, the information side is invaluable. If you ever want to check out a PRS style match, pala shooting range near Temecula has one once a month on the first Sunday. Lots of gear to check out if you have questions or want to check something out before buying.

[1859sharps]

However, the owner/instructor is the real deal. Decades of experience with LAPD SWATas well as instructor for other police agency's, federal agencys and miltary. Additionally, (for at least the classes I've been) to all his instructors were either current or retired SWAT personnel. While their credentials are all, IMHO superb, their ability to teach is by far the best I've ever seen. Aside from being knowledgeable, their instructors were great teachers. Efficient, patient, good observors and great communicators. Zero bravado or attitude.

As a general rule when someone rattles off all the alphabet and "tier one" units he does and then claim to have worked with them in some fashion... HUGE RED FLAG. Red flag doesn't mean they are lying but be suspicious, check around, verify. Just food for thought when checking out a firearms school.

In this case, I would take his word until you have reason not to vs be suspicious up front. LAPD Metro gets to do some pretty cool things and does interact with a lot of "cool guy" units and agencies.

Reading the class description, if your interest is long range shooting, likely will be a good intro.

By reputation though, a Gunsite 270 class would give you a more well rounded base of instruction and opportunity to practice under their instructors. If "you" can swing it, and want a solid foundation in using a rifle, particularly a bolt action in a broader range of application vs "just a sniper rifle", it's the class to take.

I have not gone because of the cost and time, so I get why one would look for something less costly and local. Again, food for thought.

As for using Sniper Hide as a resource. It is a useful resource for learning about long range shooting. Key there is long range shooting. They sometimes forget that not everything is about long-range shooting and what might be a right or a best practice in their discipline isn't in another. It also takes some time to sort out who knows what they are talking about and who is full of hot air.

The best book I have found so far for learning the fundamentals and making sure you have the basics covered just starting out is Ryan Cleckner's book "long range shooting". Ryan seems to be a natural instructor/teacher and is able to clearly and efficiently get across what you need to know to get started. Not all people wishing/wanting/trying to be instructors can do this. They may have the knowledge and know how, but can't instruct worth beans.