Value thoughts on a couple old guns

[mrvaudo]

My father in law has some old rifles he wants to get rid of so I?m going to try to help him sell them. Was looking for thoughts on their value.

British enfield 303. 1944 date stamped.

And a Stevens single shot octagonal barrel. 25-20 is the caliber and I think it?s a weird not easy to get 25-20. He has about 10 rounds left.

Both are in decent shape for old guns, but not showroom quality or anything. Don?t know if they are functioning.

[echo1]

The picture are to small for any detail, but the Enfield is modified beyond simple repair. I can't tell if it's got a flat floor plate or if the mag is missing, which will make a big difference in potential salvageability. You'd be robbing somebody at $50 bucks. At any rate all milsurp value is gone and because it's modified its no longer a C&R qualified specimen either. Best money would be a police buy back.

The Stevens I don't know squat about but if it hasn't been messed with, it should have a collector following for such weapons, single shot extinct caliber. The ammo might be worth more than the rifle, are the boolits center fire? Can't see the front sight, but the rear tang aperture has value and I believe it designates it as a target model. Looks to be missing the forearm. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful. Again, better pictures are needed especially for that guy. Close ups of any markings would be nice. I think this is it. PAX

https://www.gunvaluesboard.com/j.-stevens-at-co.-25-20-17259338.html

[mrvaudo]

Thanks! I think I uploaded better quality photos now

[echo1]

Still not enough detail. You need something like these, in good light with close ups of the action, trigger groups, and any markings or proofs. Photos that can be blown up. Although it looks like the Stevens has a cracked stock with the lever up/down shoot. PAX

[PoorRichRichard]

That sporterized Enfield is cool. If it were mine, I wouldn’t take any less that $400 for it. Just me personally. It might be worth more than that. There are guys that are really into these. The key is being patient and waiting for the right buyer that is gonna give you the money that you want. Gunbroker might be your friend in this one.

[Garand Hunter]

Just because a military rifle has been sportered does not mean it has cheap value. I have went thru several of them over the years. Some bought cheap and some I paid more for the ones I wanted to keep. Collectors want original and some don't. You can still get 25-20 but you have to scrounge around for it.

Psalm 1

[kendog4570]

The Stevens is a Tip Up. They came in many versions rifles, pistols, and shotguns. Some with forearm wood some without. The 25 cal could be either rim or center fire, most likely a rim fire.
High book puts one 100% without wood at $700.
Actual value may be different.
I believe production ended before 1898 so they are all antiques.

[glassparman]

Ditto on what Echo said about the Enfield. Once they have modified metal and such, its value is near zero except as a plinker. Replacement surplus stocks can be found but at a higher price than the rifle is worth.

just my 2 cents as an avid Enfield collector.

[echo1]

Just because a military rifle has been sportered does not mean it has cheap value. I have went thru several of them over the years.
Psalm 1

True, as well and you have to make a determination on each example, his Enfield is magless but maybe the metal bits haven't been bothered, hence the need for good pictures to make an accurate guesstimate. I picked up 2 Brits similar to his off this board, both MK4s, one for $60 (beyond repair), one for $70 (salvageable). I found this sport 03-A3 for 2 bills at an LGS and jumped right on it. PAX

[bigbossman]

I used to collect well done sporterized military rifles - 1903A3's, Enfield's, Arisaka's, Mauser's....if it was done right, I was interested. I don't think I paid more than a couple of hundred bucks for any of them. They have no collector value and so go cheaply, but they are a piece of post WWII history and they make dandy hunting rifles. The thing with yours is that we can't tell from the pics what was done to it or how, so it's hard to put a number on it.

Regarding the Stevens - don't know much about those, but I can tell you that tang sight is worth a couple hundred all by itself.

[echo1]

Just because a military rifle has been sportered does not mean it has cheap value. I have went thru several of them over the years. Some bought cheap and some I paid more for the ones I wanted to keep. Collectors want original and some don't. You can still get 25-20 but you have to scrounge around for it.
Psalm 1

That sporterized Enfield is cool. If it were mine, I wouldn’t take any less that $400 for it. Just me personally. It might be worth more than that. There are guys that are really into these. The key is being patient and waiting for the right buyer that is gonna give you the money that you want. Gunbroker might be your friend in this one.

GH & PRR, I have 2 sport Enfield's I'd take $500 for both.
Pictures are on W.R. Buchanan's thread in this forum if you're so inclined. PAX

[Doughuntr]

Cool, guessing Enfield was the same as motorcycle company? What years?

[TRAP55]

On a Stevens single shot that says 25-20, it's not a 25/20WCF. It's a 25/20SS or Single Shot, two different cartridges.

[hambam105]

Did I see a rear peep sight in one of those photos that might be worth more than the rifle it's on?