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  • prophei
    Member
    • May 2010
    • 102

    So I just bought an original 1873...

    Hi All,

    I am in the SF Bay Area, and just bought an original 1873 with the fancy flip up sights from the vallejo gun show. It is an early 1890's production, full length, hex barrel, and in 32-20.

    This is my first 1873, and was wondering if I might be able get some advice about a few things from the experts/fans here.

    My first question is... is it true that my only real option for ammo is going to be reloading? As is well known, the prices for 32-20 is very high, and most places show no stock. I have never rolled my own with ammo, so that would be a big step. Still, any advice about this, all the way up to which reloading set I should be looking for is much appreciated! Anyone selling something like this here?

    My second question is about the spec of ammo I need to have. I know that this thing isn't made for ammo that is too hot, but I am not sure if there are particular things to avoid. It seems like all 32-20 has a similar spec that I assume is ok... but is that a bad assumption? What do I need to be careful about? I bought this as a shooter, and was told it is very much a good one, so I assume it is generally up to the task.

    Lastly, is there anything else I should know? These are incredibly beautiful old rifles that I have lusted after for a long time, but my experience with lever guns is very new. Most of my experience is with more modern semi-auto stuff, and a bit with mauser type bolt actions. This lever thing is all new to me, so I assume that I don't know what I don't know.

    Anyways, looking forward to your thoughts! Thank you in advance!

    p.s. If you have ammo for sale, or if you have any modern production winchester 1973 that you want to get rid of, please PM me!

    *I have added some images, and will add more in the thread below
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    Last edited by prophei; 10-17-2022, 10:31 AM.
  • #2
    golfish
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Mar 2013
    • 10111

    Originally posted by prophei
    Hi All,

    I am in the SF Bay Area, and just bought an original 1873 with the fancy flip up sights from the vallejo gun show. It is an early 1890's production, full length, hex barrel, and in 32-20.

    This is my first 1873, and was wondering if I might be able get some advice about a few things from the experts/fans here.

    My first question is... is it true that my only real option for ammo is going to be reloading? As is well known, the prices for 32-20 is very high, and most places show no stock. I have never rolled my own with ammo, so that would be a big step. Still, any advice about this, all the way up to which reloading set I should be looking for is much appreciated! Anyone selling something like this here?

    My second question is about the spec of ammo I need to have. I know that this thing isn't made for ammo that is too hot, but I am not sure if there are particular things to avoid. It seems like all 32-20 has a similar spec that I assume is ok... but is that a bad assumption? What do I need to be careful about? I bought this as a shooter, and was told it is very much a good one, so I assume it is generally up to the task.

    Lastly, is there anything else I should know? These are incredibly beautiful old rifles that I have lusted after for a long time, but my experience with lever guns is very new. Most of my experience is with more modern semi-auto stuff, and a bit with mauser type bolt actions. This lever thing is all new to me, so I assume that I don't know what I don't know.

    Anyways, looking forward to your thoughts! Thank you in advance!

    p.s. If you have ammo for sale, or if you have any modern production winchester 1973 that you want to get rid of, please PM me!
    Brother, you do know that you have to post pictures, right?

    Its not that we don't believe you, we just want to see the gun.

    Your either going to pay the price of factory ammo or reload.
    It takes a lot of balls to play golf the way I do.
    Happiness is a warm gun.

    MLC, First 3

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    • #3
      Sandspider500
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2018
      • 1140

      20gr ffg
      Originally posted by Palmaris
      You should not worry about me. This web site is monitored by all kind of authorities and if they found this kind of post credible enough as threat, they might want to start investigation. I have no idea what can be outcome. Just saying.

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      • #4
        Enzo rules
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2017
        • 850

        It’s sounds nice but we need pictures

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        • #5
          Steve45-70
          Member
          • May 2022
          • 158

          Yeah trying to "shoot" old calibers pretty much means you need to reload. The 32-20 is a gun I would love to own. I have a couple 218's and a 25-20. Same case but smaller diameters.

          Brass is really had to come by right now. I would try gun broker or Starline.

          I love to reload with black powder but I would probably go with smokeless for this gun. Black can be pretty corrosive unless you do a super through cleaning.

          I am not a big fan of reloading for other people's (really nice ) guns but if you can find some brass and bullets, I could help you load up however many you need. I have the dies, powder and primers. I am around Sacramento.

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          • #6
            bonesurf
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 2075

            I have an original 1873 as well. Saddle ring carbine 32-20.
            Ammo issues IMO are multiple. One factory is nigh impossible to get or stupid expensive. Two brass is also hard to find. Three the cases are relatively fragile at the neck. You gotta take your time relatively speaking reloading this
            Lots of recipes out there. Black powder loads sure but then you gotta clean black powder (yuck). I use a small amount of tite group. It’s pretty accurate honestly and chronos around 900. there are multiple published loads that keep your pressures down and keep it around 900 fps which is what I believe what 20 of BP will give you. that being said, the action on this is an 1873 action. it'll handle 44-40 (BP loads) (edit not 45LC) so it'll probably handle whatever you can actually put in a 32-20 case (again, the brass is a bit on the fragile side). It is a VERY light shooting round. And it’s subsonic. So light shooting that in my colt lightning sometimes only way I know round went off is the “ding” after of the metal

            Last edited by bonesurf; 10-17-2022, 9:20 AM.
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            • #7
              Sandspider500
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2018
              • 1140

              How did the 73 handle 45 colt bp loads?
              Originally posted by Palmaris
              You should not worry about me. This web site is monitored by all kind of authorities and if they found this kind of post credible enough as threat, they might want to start investigation. I have no idea what can be outcome. Just saying.

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              • #8
                bonesurf
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2011
                • 2075

                Originally posted by Sandspider500
                How did the 73 handle 45 colt bp loads?
                Brain fart
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                • #9
                  prophei
                  Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 102

                  Originally posted by golfish
                  Brother, you do know that you have to post pictures, right?

                  Its not that we don't believe you, we just want to see the gun.
                  Fair!
                  I'l take some and get some up.

                  -m

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                  • #10
                    prophei
                    Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 102

                    Thanks for the info... beautiful rifle!

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                    • #11
                      prophei
                      Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 102

                      Some more pics in addition to those attached to the original post...
                      Attached Files

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                      • #12
                        bonesurf
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 2075

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                        • #13
                          golfish
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 10111

                          Originally posted by prophei
                          Some more pics in addition to those attached to the original post...
                          Well done, it looks like a nice one..

                          Originally posted by Sandspider500
                          How did the 73 handle 45 colt bp loads?
                          This probably surprises a lot of people but a lever gun in 45 Long Colt wasn't produced until 1985.

                          It takes a lot of balls to play golf the way I do.
                          Happiness is a warm gun.

                          MLC, First 3

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                          • #14
                            bonesurf
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 2075

                            Yeah that’s the whole 45LC was a COLT thing not a winchester thing
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                            • #15
                              RNE228
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 2458

                              I knew that, and had read comments here before. But, that article sheds a lot of light on why

                              Originally posted by golfish
                              This probably surprises a lot of people but a lever gun in 45 Long Colt wasn't produced until 1985.

                              https://leverguns.com/articles/paco/45coltlevergun.htm

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